{"id":5085,"date":"2013-11-21T17:02:02","date_gmt":"2013-11-21T23:02:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sarahoverthemoon\/?p=5085"},"modified":"2013-11-21T20:30:57","modified_gmt":"2013-11-22T02:30:57","slug":"what-love-and-respect-fireproof-abuse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sarahoverthemoon\/2013\/11\/what-love-and-respect-fireproof-abuse\/","title":{"rendered":"What &#8220;Love and Respect&#8221; and &#8220;Fireproof&#8221; Teach Abusers and their Victims"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_5086\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5086\" style=\"width: 271px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/File:Fireproof_poster.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5086\" title=\"Fireproof_poster\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/352\/2013\/11\/Fireproof_poster.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"271\" height=\"399\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5086\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Poster from the movie \u201cFireproof\u201d (click for source)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p><strong>Content Note: Descriptions of Abuse, Abuse Apologism<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ever since we started dating, my husband Abe has been trying to talk me into watching the movie\u00a0<em>Fireproof<\/em>\u00a0with him. No, not because he thought it would help our relationship, but because he insisted that it was one of the funniest movies I\u2019d ever see. A couple of weeks ago, we finally rented the DVD at Family Video (yes, those still exist), and he was right. It was pretty hilarious\u2013in the same way that Troll 2 and Jaws The Revenge are hilarious. It was awful.<\/p>\n<p>Even though Abe and I found ourselves laughing throughout the entire movie, there were a few scenes that forced me to stop and think, \u201cWait, people actually take this seriously.\u201d <strong>As funny as the cheesy lines and awful acting are, the messages this movie sends are dangerous.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve also been reading through the Christian marriage book <em>Love and Respect.\u00a0<\/em>I\u2019d meant to include this book in my \u201cYou Are Not Your Own\u201d project, but my professor suggested I drop a book or two from my list as it would be too much work to complete in just a few months, and that was the one to go. A conversation on Facebook promoted me to pick it up and read through it.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know this for sure, but I would not be surprised if the movie\u00a0<em>Fireproof\u00a0<\/em>was created by a huge\u00a0<em>Love and Respect\u00a0<\/em>fan. Both contain the same harmful messages.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What are these harmful messages?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The central message in\u00a0<em>Love and Respect\u00a0<\/em>is that men need unconditional respect, and women need unconditional \u00a0love. When heterosexual husbands (there are no other types of husbands in this movies\/books) do not get respect from their wives, they react unlovingly, which causes wives to respect them even less, which causes husbands to love their wives even less, and the cycle goes on and on. <strong>To break the cycle, one spouse must decide to either love or respect the other unconditionally, no matter what the risk.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the movie\u00a0<em>Fireproof,\u00a0<\/em>we see this cycle that\u00a0<em>Love and Respect\u00a0<\/em>talks about. The idea of men needing respect is presented from the beginning, when Caleb (Kirk Cameron) is talking to his friend and says, \u201cHow is it that I get respect everywhere I go, except in my own house?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Later, Caleb goes home and gets into a fight his wife Catherine (Erin Bethea). He starts screaming at her, and backs her into a wall yelling, \u201cShut up! I\u2019m sick of you! You disrespectful, ungrateful, selfish woman! You constantly nag me and you drain the life out of me. If you can\u2019t give me the respect I deserve [she turns away]\u2013Look at me!\u2013then what\u2019s the point of this marriage?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>After the fight, he goes outside and throws the trash can against the wall in anger. Later, when his wife turns down his romantic advances, he takes out his anger at her on this same trash can using a baseball bat.<\/p>\n<p>Remember, Caleb is the protagonist here. We learn later that the movie wants to show his tactics as wrong (the screaming and shouting\u2013the movie is less clear on his destruction of family property as a response to anger, as he destroys the family computer when he gets a pop-up for pornography and we\u2019re meant to see that act as honorable). But even as he is screaming and shouting at his wife, we\u2019re supposed to empathize with his manly man need for respect. He is never told to give up on his desire for respect from his wife, but is told to draw respect (Respect here seems to mean the honoring of male \u201cheadship\/leadership,\u201d\u00a0as it does in\u00a0<em>Love and Respect)\u00a0<\/em>out in a benevolent way, by treating his wife with love.<\/p>\n<p>Though <em>Fireproof\u00a0<\/em>focuses mainly on husbands, telling them if they want respect from their wives, they should draw it out with <a title=\"You Are Not Your Own: Benevolent Sexism as the Solution to Hostile Sexism\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sarahoverthemoon\/2013\/07\/you-are-not-your-own-benevolent-sexism-as-the-solution-to-hostile-sexism\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\"><del>benevolent sexism<\/del><\/a> love, <em>Love and Respect\u00a0<\/em>puts more responsibility on women. <em>Love and Respect\u00a0<\/em>asserts that all men need respect, and that godly wives give their husbands respect whether their husbands deserve it or not. <strong>The author says he understands why women might be afraid to do that, acknowledging that some husbands are abusive, but he believes that if wives respect their husbands, it will convince even abusers to love.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Love and Respect\u00a0<\/em>gives one example of a husband who throws a dish at his wife, cutting her face open. The husband spent a few days in jail for this, but the wife\u2019s response to this situation was to contact Dr. Emerson Eggerichs (the author of\u00a0<em>Love and Respect<\/em>) for materials \u201cabout unconditionally respecting her husband.\u201d She told Eggerichs that she was \u201cmightily convicted about my need for learning this vital aspect of my wifely role.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Neither the wife who took a dish to the face nor Catherine from\u00a0<em>Fireproof\u00a0<\/em>are given the option for leaving their abusers. The movie\u00a0<em>Fireproof\u00a0<\/em>shows Catherine talking to her friends. These friends are portrayed as catty, gossipy, worldly (and, not surprisingly, half of her friends are black women\u2013the only significant black women in the movie), and they offer Catherine a place to stay should she choose to leave her husband.<\/p>\n<p><strong>We\u2019re supposed to see them as bad friends. For offering her help if she leaves her verbally abusive, threatening husband.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>These are the messages that\u00a0<em>Love and Respect\u00a0<\/em>and <em>Fireproof\u00a0<\/em>send to abusers and abuse victims:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Abusers have bad tactics but good motives.<\/strong> Abusers\u00a0<em>should<\/em> (unless they are women) expect unconditional respect from their spouses, and they\u00a0<em>should\u00a0<\/em>expect that their spouses will follow their leadership. Abusers just need to be taking the \u201c<a title=\"\u201cYou Are Not Your Own\u201d Series: On Hostile and Benevolent Sexism\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sarahoverthemoon\/2013\/06\/you-are-not-your-own-series-on-hostile-and-benevolent-sexism\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">kinder, gentler<\/a>\u201d approach.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Victims, on the other hand, have actually had the power to end abuse this whole time.<\/strong> Instead of thinking about divorce, they should stay and commit to either unconditionally respecting (this is what abused women are to do) their spouse, or unconditionally loving (this is what verbally abused men are to do\u2013<em>Love and Respect\u00a0<\/em>frequently describes the verbal abuse of men as something men just need to put up with for awhile) their spouse.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Don\u2019t leave\u2013it\u2019s a sin. Abusers, you can get the power and control you need by being \u201cnice!\u201d <strong><em>Abuse is partially your fault for failing to love or respect.\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u2014<\/em>This is what we learn from\u00a0<em>Fireproof\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>Love and Respect.\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>For more on how movies like\u00a0<\/em>Fireproof\u00a0<em>keep victims in abusive relationships, read <a href=\"http:\/\/defeatingthedragons.wordpress.com\/2013\/11\/19\/1381\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">this excellent post<\/a> at Defeating the Dragons.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Content Note: Descriptions of Abuse, Abuse Apologism Ever since we started dating, my husband Abe has been trying to talk me into watching the movie\u00a0Fireproof\u00a0with him. No, not because he thought it would help our relationship, but because he insisted that it was one of the funniest movies I\u2019d ever see. 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