{"id":8545,"date":"2021-10-26T08:00:39","date_gmt":"2021-10-26T14:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/schaeffersghost\/?p=8545"},"modified":"2021-10-21T08:12:07","modified_gmt":"2021-10-21T14:12:07","slug":"common-grace-2-65","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/schaeffersghost\/2021\/10\/common-grace-2-65\/","title":{"rendered":"Common Grace, 2.65"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><em>This post is part of a series walking through the second volume of Abraham Kuyper\u2019s\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Common-Grace-Abraham-Collected-Theology\/dp\/1577996690\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?dchild=1&amp;keywords=common+grace+volume+2&amp;qid=1599499603&amp;sr=8-1&amp;linkCode=ll1&amp;tag=cneal20-20&amp;linkId=c6aa484dc180824bd4e5fce5740c285d&amp;language=en_US\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Common<\/a>\u00a0Grace<\/em><\/p>\n<p>We need to see that all suffering is a punishment for the curse, and that on the cross for His people Christ transformed the punishment into a sanctifying chastisement. So again we must look at how suffering is\u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">both<\/span> a part of God\u2019s curse\u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">and<\/span> resisted by God. Part of our difficult in seeing this dual truth is our implicit Pelagianism that puts these things in tension. We would try to see God\u2019s actions in their cosmic, organic whole with (from our perspective) God\u2019s actions apparently chaotic and not to be resisted. There is some \u201cexperiential truth\u201d here, ultimately this view is untenable. (561) Consider:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Children suffer for their parents\u2019 sin;<\/li>\n<li>Innocent and guilty alike suffer during a pandemic;<\/li>\n<li>the godless flourish while God\u2019s people suffer.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>All this tells us that the character of suffering is universal\u2013not incidental. If this were not true, even the cross itself would be undermined:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThose who understand the mystery of Golgotha, furthermore, know how in fact every Pelagian notion of God\u2019s ordination in suffering either undermines the substitutionary nature of Christ\u2019s suffering or marks it as the cruelest form of caprice.\u201d (562)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So the \u201croot of all suffering\u201d is the curse\u2013which in turn is tied to creation. The curse is not a foreign substance in creation, it is rather a\u00a0<em>privatio actuosa<\/em>\u2013a deprivation. (562) We\u2019re like, Kuyper tells us, a train off the tracks of Divine order:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cHumankind has allowed the train of life to slip off the God-laid track of his holy order, and immediately thereafter the life force that pushes everything ahead of it has turned into an immeasurable force of destruction. This turning of the propelling force of life into a life-destroying force\u2026 is what Scripture calls the curse. It is not something new, not something added, not something that, like matter, is created separately and sent to us. Rather it is and remains precisely and entirely the same force that God brought into being within creation; but that force, intended to propel our life forward, became a force of death and ruin through the curse.\u201d (563)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>God cannot change this fact because He is true, and undoing His order would be an assault on Himself. But neither did God leave us to the effects of the curse. he lessens and delays its effects through common grace, and will one day undo it completely. (Even Jesus in the garden resisted before submitting!)<\/p>\n<p><em>Dr. Coyle Neal is co-host of the\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/the-christian-humanist\/the-city-of-man-podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">City of Man Podcast<\/a>\u00a0and an Associate Profess<\/em><em>or of Political Science at\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sbuniv.edu\/academics\/programs\/political-science.php\" target=\"_blank\">Southwest Baptist University<\/a>\u00a0in Bolivar, MO<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kuyper on the curse in the created 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