{"id":1311,"date":"2014-07-28T09:29:24","date_gmt":"2014-07-28T13:29:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/scienceonreligion\/?p=1311"},"modified":"2014-09-17T21:39:23","modified_gmt":"2014-09-18T01:39:23","slug":"informal-study-finds-bloggers-cant-tell-fact-from-fiction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/scienceonreligion\/2014\/07\/informal-study-finds-bloggers-cant-tell-fact-from-fiction\/","title":{"rendered":"Informal Study Finds Bloggers Can\u2019t Tell Fact from Fiction"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><strong><em>Connor Wood<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/131\/2014\/07\/Confused-computer-guy.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-1312\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/131\/2014\/07\/Confused-computer-guy-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"Confused computer guy\" width=\"270\" height=\"180\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A <a title=\"Wiley\" href=\"http:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1111\/cogs.12138\/abstract\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">study<\/a> that made the rounds through the TwitFaceBlogosphere last week claimed that religious children can\u2019t distinguish properly between fantasy and reality. The <a title=\"HuffPo\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2014\/07\/21\/children-religion-fact-fiction_n_5607009.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Huffington Post<\/a>, the <a title=\"Patheos\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/friendlyatheist\/2014\/07\/18\/new-study-shows-that-children-exposed-to-religion-have-a-hard-time-distinguishing-fact-from-fiction\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Friendly Atheist<\/a>, <a title=\"Patheos\" href=\"http:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/rs\/2014\/07\/18\/children-exposed-to-religion-have-difficulty-distinguishing-fact-from-fiction\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">RawStory<\/a>, and the <a title=\"DU\" href=\"http:\/\/www.democraticunderground.com\/10025261390\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Democratic Underground<\/a> each chimed in, all with headlines that were some version of \u201cChildren Exposed to Religion Have Difficulty Telling Truth from Fiction.\u201d Of course, that\u2019s not what the study actually shows. It shows that religious children believe religious stories. But more groan-inducing than the study authors\u2019 conclusions\u00a0is how quickly so many people\u00a0jumped on the middle-school \u201claugh-at-religion\u201d bandwagon, without stopping to, you know, think critically.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The original study, \u201c<a title=\"Wiley\" href=\"http:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1111\/cogs.12138\/abstract\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Judgments About Fact and Fiction by Children From Religious and Nonreligious Backgrounds<\/a>,\u201d recently appeared in a pre-print online version of the journal <i>Cognitive Science<\/i>. Its authors, led by Boston University education professor Kathleen Corriveau, carried out two experiments to determine whether religious and secular children would differ in their ability to distinguish fictional characters and stories from real (or realistic) ones. For their experiments, the researchers recruited groups of kindergarten-age children from around Cambridge, Massachusetts. Some of the children had completely secular family and educational backgrounds. Others either attended church, a parochial school, or both.<\/p>\n<p>In both experiments, the children were first asked to sort individual characters into \u201creal\u201d and \u201cfictional\u201d categories. For example, George Washington was a \u201creal\u201d character, while Snow White wasn\u2019t. Importantly, children with both religious and secular backgrounds performed equally well on this task.<i> <\/i>(In fact, contrary to what <a title=\"Faithstreet\" href=\"http:\/\/www.faithstreet.com\/onfaith\/2014\/07\/25\/is-religion-good-for-kids\/33270\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Eliyanu Federman claimed at OnFaith<\/a>, children who attended both church and religious school gave slightly <i>more<\/i> correct answers, and had a lower standard deviation in their scores, than the secular children, although these differences weren\u2019t large enough to be statistically significant.)<\/p>\n<p>Next, the kids were asked to show whether they believed a few different stories were \u201creal\u201d or \u201cpretend.\u201d In the first experiment, there were three types of stories: realistic, fantastical, and religious. Importantly, the stories were <i>all<\/i> taken from the Bible. Fantastical and realistic stories were simply modified to eliminate mention of God or miraculous events, respectively. Here are three versions of the story of Samson the researchers told the kids in the first study:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>Religious<\/i><\/p>\n<p>This is Samson. He was a very strong man, so when he was captured and tied to some pillars, he kept breaking the pillars and escaping. But one day, Samson\u2019s long hair was cut and made him weak, so he prayed to God and became strong once again.<\/p>\n<p><i>Fantastical<\/i><\/p>\n<p>This is Samson. He was a very strong man, so when he was captured and tied to some pillars, he kept breaking the pillars and escaping. But one day, Samson\u2019s long hair was cut and made him weak, so he used his magical powers to become strong once again.<\/p>\n<p><i>Realistic<\/i><\/p>\n<p>This is Samson. He was a very strong man, so when he was captured and tied to some pillars, he kept breaking the pillars and escaping. But one day, Samson got sick and lost all of his hair. When he got better, he did a lot of exercise to become strong once again.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Corriveau and her fellow researchers assumed that the religious children would rate the religious stories as more \u201ctrue\u201d than the secular kids, and that all children would generally think the realistic stories were true. These expectations were fulfilled: everyone thought the \u201crealistic\u201d stories were true, while only the religious kids thought the stories with God were true.<\/p>\n<p>But the finding that\u2019s been making the splash around the Internet was that the religious children <i>also<\/i> tended to think that the \u201cfantastical\u201d stories were true. Or at least more than the secular kids did. Does this mean that religious kids can\u2019t tell fantasy from reality, or that religious kids just accept the validity of religious stories? In a second study, the researchers tried to answer this question by modifying the stories and changing the names of the characters. But all the stories still came from\u2026 the Bible. For example, the researchers used these derivations of the story of the parting of the Red Sea:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This is John. John led his people when they were escaping from their enemies. When they reached the sea John waved his stick. The sea separated into two parts, and John and his people escaped through the pathway in the middle.<\/p>\n<p>This is John. John led his people when they were escaping from their enemies. When they reached the mountain John waved his stick. The mountain separated into two parts, and John and his people escaped through the pathway in the middle.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Again, secular children thought these stories were less believable than the religious kids did. Corriveau and her coauthors claimed \u00a0that this result shows that religious kids weren\u2019t just recognizing Bible stories and calling them true, because the stories had different names (John instead of Moses). No, the researchers decided, the difference was that religious children simply couldn\u2019t tell fantasy from reality. \u201cExposure to religion\u201d (the kind of language used for animal-borne pathogens) might actually have altered the way that kids processed concepts of physical possibility.<\/p>\n<p>This brilliant finding got Corriveau a lot of attention, and it got many bloggers a lot of clicks and frothy comment threads. But it\u2019s wrong. <i>Every one<\/i> of the stories they used in their experiments was drawn directly from the Christian New and Old Testaments. The narratives\u2019 structures and themes are <i>directly derived from Bible stories<\/i>. For example, in the story about John and the mountain above, John is fleeing from enemies with \u201chis people\u201d (a giveaway phrase for the Moses story). A barrier appears. He waves his \u201cstick.\u201d And the barrier <em>parts in the middle<\/em>, allowing his people to escape their enemies.<\/p>\n<p>Tell me \u2013 if you saw this story someplace else, what would be the first thought in your mind? If you had <i>any<\/i> exposure to Abrahamic religions at all, it would be something like, \u201cHuh. This sounds like the story about Moses and Red Sea, but with some things switched around and replaced. Weird.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In other words, anyone with the slightest familiarity with the stories in the Bible \u2013 even a six-year-old \u2013 would probably have recognized this as a version of the Moses story. And if you\u2019d been taught to believe that the Bible stories are true \u2013 even if not in the same way as other \u201ctrue\u201d stories \u2013 you\u2019d feel pretty conflicted about calling it false outright.<\/p>\n<p>If the researchers <i>really<\/i> wanted to see whether religious kids couldn\u2019t tell reality from fantasy, they ought to have drawn their stories from European folk tales, or <a title=\"Lakota mythology\" href=\"http:\/\/aktalakota.stjo.org\/site\/PageServer?pagename=alm_culture_legends\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Lakota mythology<\/a>, or the Hindu <a title=\"Puranas\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dharmakshetra.com\/literature\/puranas\/puranas.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Puranas<\/a>. If Christian kids in Boston believe that the <a title=\"WBCW\" href=\"http:\/\/kstrom.net\/isk\/arvol\/buffpipe.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">White Buffalo Calf Woman<\/a> appeared naked to two hunters en route to bringing the sacred pipe to the Lakota people, then maybe I\u2019ll accept the authors\u2019 conclusions. But that\u2019s not what would happen. I\u2019d bet money Christian kids and secular kids would be equally doubtful about the White Buffalo Calf Woman \u2013 or any story derived from non-Christian\u00a0mythology, no matter how the authors tweaked the thematic elements.<\/p>\n<p>As it stands, this study isn\u2019t about truth judgments; it\u2019s about cultural ones. In fact, the authors actually excluded several Jewish kids from their study, precisely <i>because <\/i>the Jewish kids might not recognize some of the stories drawn from the New Testament. Talk about biasing the sample! Of course, you could argue that the religious stories are clearly not true, and that therefore the point remains that religious kids are misled, but then this entire study would be raw tautology \u2013 which in fact is exactly what it is. If you define religious beliefs <i>from the beginning<\/i> as false, and then test whether religious children hold religious beliefs \u2013 well, you\u2019re going to find that religious kids believe false things. But the Internet didn\u2019t need a study to tell them this. They already believed it.<\/p>\n<p>____<\/p>\n<p><em>This post\u2019s clever title is\u00a0courtesy of my good friend and fellow religion researcher Jonathan Morgan, whose blog you can <a title=\"EMR\" href=\"http:\/\/www.exploringmyreligion.org\/blog\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">find here<\/a>.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A study shared widely in the TwitFaceBlogosphere says that religious children can&#8217;t tell fact from fiction. 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