{"id":5658,"date":"2016-11-15T15:46:35","date_gmt":"2016-11-15T19:46:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/scottericalt\/?p=5658"},"modified":"2018-03-10T18:12:00","modified_gmt":"2018-03-10T22:12:00","slug":"are-catholics-forbidden-to-criticize-priests","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/scottericalt\/are-catholics-forbidden-to-criticize-priests\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Criticizing Priests Forbidden to Catholics? In Fact, We Have a Right To."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><\/p>\n<style>\nH1, H2, H5, H6 {font-family: vollkorn; font-weight: normal;&rdquo;}\nH4 {font-weight: normal;}\np, li {color: #292e37; line-height: 1.1em; font-size: 95%; text-align: justify;}\nli {margin-bottom: 10px;}\na {color: #aa1111 !important; border: none !important; Font-weight: normal !important;}\n<\/style>\n<figure id=\"attachment_5659\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5659\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/scottericalt\/are-catholics-forbidden-to-criticize-priests\/pointing-finger\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5659\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border:1px solid #292e37;padding:3px;\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/668\/2016\/11\/Pointing-Finger.jpg\" alt=\"Image via Pixabay\" width=\"100%\" height=\"100%\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5659\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5659\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><p style=\"Font-style: normal;text-align:center;margin-top:-15px;\">Image via <a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/en\/man-pointing-finger-boy-face-hand-407083\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pixabay<\/a><\/p>\n<p><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p style=\"Line-height: 1.1em; font-size: 95%; text-align: justify; margin-bottom: 30px;\"><span style=\"float:left;color:#292e37;font-size:175px;line-height: 100px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:3px;\">T<\/span>his is not another post about Fr. Pavone. Saints forbid. But it was during a discussion of that topic on Facebook that someone made the claim that Catholics are \u201cnot allowed\u201d to criticize priests. I am going to limit myself, therefore, to that <em>specific<\/em> claim. I do not, here, address the topic of whether criticism of priests is imprudent. Nor do I discuss the extent to which we must do so in charity, or privately, with respect for the office, and so on. I address <em>only<\/em> the claim that it is \u201cnot allowed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">As near as I can tell, this belief has its origins in a section of the <em>Pieta Prayer Book<\/em> that quotes from a private revelation. Here is the key text.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"line-height: 1.1em; margin-left: 45px; font-size: 95%;\">One should NEVER attack a priest, even when he\u2019s in error, rather one should pray and do penance that I\u2019ll grant him My grace again. He alone fully represents Me, even when he doesn\u2019t live after my example!<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"line-height: 1.1em;\">PPB attributes these words to \u201cOur Lord\u2019s revelations to Mutter Vogel.\u201d And the first thing one should know on this point is that Catholics are not bound by private revelation. They are not bound even to those the Church has approved. The conscience of Catholics is bound only to <em>public<\/em> revelation, and public revelation ended with the death of the last apostle. When the Church approves a private revelation, that only means she has found nothing contrary to faith or morals there. Catholics may <em>choose<\/em> to believe it, but the Church does not compel them to. A Catholic who chooses to believe \u201cOur Lord\u2019s revelations to Mutter Vogel,\u201d can decide for himself, \u201cI will not ever criticize a priest.\u201d But he cannot bind another Catholic to that under penalty of sin.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">If Our Lord had thought that such a prohibition should bind all Catholics, would he not have included it as public revelation?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">Second, one should also note that the Church has nowhere approved \u201cOur Lord\u2019s revelations to Mutter Vogel.\u201d In fact, Vogel is such an obscure personage that I find no reference to her in either the Old or New Catholic Encyclopedias. One may think of these words as, at best, a pious suggestion, but they are certainly far from an official stricture upon criticism of priests.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">\u201cBut Alt!\u201d you will say. \u201cWhat about John 17:18? What about John 20:21? Or Luke 10:16?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">Okay. What about them?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">In the first two, Christ says, \u201cAs the Father has sent me, so I am sending you.\u201d The most this tells me is that Christ ordained priests to preach the gospel. He ordained priests to administer the sacraments. But none of that is in dispute. <a href=\"http:\/\/mere-catholicism.com\/dont-criticize-priests\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">To suggest<\/a> that criticism of priests is the same as criticism of Christ is to read into the text what is not there. It is eisegesis. <em>Christ<\/em> is sinless; <em>Christ<\/em> does not make mistakes. This we know. He sends apostles to preach the Gospel, but he does not make them impeccable. Not even the pope is without error in all things.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">In Luke 10:16, Christ says the apostles, \u201cWhoever hears you, hears me, but whoever rejects you rejects me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">The problem is that Christ is speaking about the apostles only as teachers of the faith. He means that anyone who rejects the apostles\u2019 <em>teaching<\/em> has rejected Christ. But priests are not official teachers of the faith. They are, but only insofar as they remain consistent with the Magisterium of the Church\u2014the pope and the bishops in union with him.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">And not even bishops get such a privilege when it comes to their actions\u2014their teaching yes, their actions no. Christ says nothing about whether we may criticize a bishop for living in a big, roomy mansion. (I do not say that is or is not a fair criticism, only that Luke 10:16 has no application. To reject the bishop\u2019s mansion is not the same as to reject Christ.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">\u201cBut Alt!\u201d you will say. \u201cWhat about St. Francis? <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/simcha-fisher\/why-does-francis-keep-kissing-hands\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Remember?<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"line-height: 1.1em; margin-left: 45px; font-size: 95%;\">The saint was close to the end of his life, unable to walk and suffering from an eye disease and the stigmata. As he was brought through a region, some people from a nearby town came to ask for his help with their parish priest. They had discovered that their priest was involved in a scandalous relationship with a woman of that town. The saint was brought to the town and placed before the priest in front of everyone. They thought that the saint would upbraid the fallen priest. St. Francis instead fell to his knees, took the priest\u2019s hands into his own stigmatized hands, kissed them and said, \u201cAll I know and all I want to know is that these hands give me Jesus.\u201d It was said that the priest was converted.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"line-height: 1.1em;\">This story dates to the thirteenth century, according to the <em>Register<\/em> article which quotes it, and it is certainly a very pious tale. I would not wish to dispute the truth of it. But the most it tells us is that St. Francis was not in the habit of criticizing priests. We may certainly choose to emulate his example, but there is no reason to think we are bound by it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">\u201cBut Alt!\u201d you will say. \u201cSt. Catherine of Siena is a Doctor of the Church! In her <em>Dialogues<\/em> she tells us that Christ warned against criticism of priests! What say you?\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">Yes. She did. And again, this is a private revelation to which Catholics are not bound. You can say that we ought to take St. Catherine\u2019s suggestion seriously. You can say that the fact that she is a saint, and a Doctor, gives her words a particular weight. But what you cannot say is that the conscience of Catholics is bound by St. Catherine\u2019s <em>Dialogues<\/em>. What you cannot say is that the <em>Dialogues<\/em> are magisterial teaching.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">In fact, go to the Code of Canon Law <a href=\"http:\/\/www.intratext.com\/IXT\/ENG0017\/_PT.HTM\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">208-223<\/a>, and you will find it says much about the obligations, <em>but also the rights<\/em>, of the faithful. Canon 212 tells us that Catholics must \u201cshow Christian obedience\u201d to their pastors. But you will also find these words.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"Margin-left: 45px; line-height: 1.1em; font-size: 95%;\">They have the right, <strong>indeed at times the duty<\/strong>, in keeping with their knowledge, competence and position, to manifest to the sacred Pastors their views on matters <strong>which concern the good of the Church<\/strong>. They have the right also <strong>to make their views known to others of Christ\u2019s faithful<\/strong>, but in doing so they must always respect the integrity of faith and morals, show due reverence to the Pastors and take into account both the common good and the dignity of individuals.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">When it \u201cconcern[s] the good of the Church,\u201d Catholics may certainly criticize priests. They even have the right to do so publicly. Now, the canon does say that the criticism must be in keeping with Church teaching, and that Catholics must \u201cshow due reverence.\u201d In other words, they must obey the law of charity.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-indent: 30px; line-height: 1.1em;\">But not only are Catholics not forbidden to criticize priests, they actually have a <em>right<\/em> to\u2014when it involves the good of the Church.<\/p>\n<h6>***<\/h6>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is not another post about Fr. Pavone. Saints forbid. But it was during a discussion of that topic on Facebook that someone made the claim that Catholics are \u201cnot allowed\u201d to criticize priests. I am going to limit myself, therefore, to that specific claim. 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