{"id":3491,"date":"2016-02-09T01:46:37","date_gmt":"2016-02-09T06:46:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/?p=3491"},"modified":"2016-02-08T17:07:58","modified_gmt":"2016-02-08T22:07:58","slug":"but-the-tradition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2016\/02\/but-the-tradition\/","title":{"rendered":"But What About The Tradition?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Every time I mention <a title=\"Polarity and Diversity\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2015\/10\/polarity-and-diversity\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">polarity<\/a>\u00a0and inclusive Wicca, someone at the back is sure to say, with irritating regularity,\u00a0\u201cBut what about the tradition?\u201d There is also a tendency to assume that polarity must always be made by a man and a woman, and that that is the default option for making <a title=\"Gender and sexuality in Wicca\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2015\/01\/gender-and-sexuality-in-wicca\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">polarity<\/a>. It has got to the point where other forms of making magic don\u2019t seem to be considered in some circles.<\/p>\n<p>As I have pointed out on numerous occasions, and as my friend <a href=\"http:\/\/wiccanrede.org\/2016\/01\/understanding-polarity-in-the-21st-century\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Alder Lyncurium points out in this excellent article on polarity<\/a>, there is much more to polarity than the interaction of a male body and a female body:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Polarity is, in essence, a constant interaction between more than one force or element. It is the movement, the striving of those forces, and the rhythm in it, that creates the dynamism. As occultists, witches or magicians we observe the underlying patterns of that rhythm, get insights and tap into it, or try to emulate it \u2014 either conscious or unconsciously.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There is also <strong>resonance<\/strong> (named by Ed Gutierrez of the Unnamed Path), the ability of two people who have a strong similarity between them to make magic together. It is rather like sympathetic magic.<\/p>\n<p>And then there is <strong>synergy<\/strong>, the ability of several people to create magical energy together by bringing their energy together, and making something that is more than the sum of its parts.<\/p>\n<p>But if you want to talk about <a title=\"Tradition and change\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2015\/04\/tradition-and-change\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">tradition<\/a> \u2013 which is, in any case, a constantly evolving and developing discourse \u2013 then let\u2019s talk about tradition. If you want your Paganism (whether it is Heathenry, or Wicca, or Druidry, or any other Pagan religion) to be <em>really<\/em> traditional, <em>really<\/em> connected to ancient pagan religions, then it should not just include <abbr title=\"Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Queer, Intersex, Asexual\">LGBTQIA<\/abbr> people as some kind of afterthought or bolted-on concession to contemporary \u201cliberal\u201d sensibilities.<\/p>\n<p>On the contrary: truly\u00a0traditional Pagans\u00a0should regard LGBTQIA people as an integral part of society. There should be rituals for same-sex partners. Lesbian poets should be celebrated and their songs recorded for posterity. Gay lovers such as Hadrian and Antinous, or Patroclus and Achilles, or <a title=\"Pausanias of Athens\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pausanias_of_Athens\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pausanias of Athens<\/a><span style=\"color: #252525;\">\u00a0and the poet\u00a0<\/span><a title=\"Agathon\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Agathon\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Agathon<\/a>,\u00a0should be widely celebrated for their heroic love. Transgender deities such as Loki and Vertumnus should be celebrated for their changes of gender. Humans such as Tiresias should be celebrated for their exploration of the other gender.<\/p>\n<h3>The Pagan revival<\/h3>\n<p><a title=\"The Gay Roots of the Pagan Revival\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2016\/02\/the-gay-roots-of-the-pagan-revival\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Many of the Pagan pioneers of the early 20th century, especially Edward Carpenter and Goldsworthy Lowes Dickinson, were gay<\/a>, and their enthusiasm for Paganism was partly informed by the knowledge that ancient pagans were gay-friendly. A friend of mine who has studied the period informs me that, similarly, early 20th century bisexual and lesbian\u00a0women\u00a0such as <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/H.D.\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hilda Doolittle (H.D.)<\/a> were inspired by the example of Sappho. And <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sylvia_Townsend_Warner\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sylvia Townsend Warner<\/a>, author of <em>Lolly Willowes<\/em> (whose heroine is an unmarried woman who becomes a witch) was both a Nature mystic and bisexual, as explored by Rebecca Beattie in her excellent book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/dp\/B00YZ9C9AG\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Nature Mystics<\/em><\/a>. The first civil rights group for lesbians in the USA was the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Daughters_of_Bilitis#Naming\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Daughters of Bilitis<\/a>, named for a fictional contemporary of Sappho.<\/p>\n<p>It is not clear to me exactly when or how\u00a0homophobia became such a huge part of Western culture. \u00a0Many people would like to blame the <a title=\"A Pagan perspective on the Bible\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2015\/06\/a-pagan-perspective-on-the-bible\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Bible<\/a>, but that book is surprisingly ambivalent about same-sex love. The love of David and Jonathan, Naomi and Ruth, and Jesus and the beloved disciple John, are all praised; it is actually fornication (sex without love) that seems to be condemned. Later Christians would of course take a dim view of <em>all<\/em> pleasures of the flesh, but that seems to have been part of a general turn against the body in Western culture that occurred around 500 CE. Looking at the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Timeline_of_LGBT_history_in_Britain\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">timeline of LGBT history in Britain<\/a>, it was not until 1102 that the church took steps to make people aware that homosexuality was sinful; and anal sex was not made illegal until 1533.<\/p>\n<h3>Ancient pagan religions\u2019 views of homosexuality<\/h3>\n<p>Looking back to ancient pagan religions, most of them were tolerant of gender and sexual diversity, but regarded the passive role in sexual intercourse (whether that role was occupied by a woman or a man) as lesser. Both the ancient Greeks and the Vikings took this view. However, it is not clear whether this view was introduced to Viking society along with Christianity, or whether they felt that way before the introduction of Christianity. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vikinganswerlady.com\/gayvik.shtml\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Viking Answer Lady has a very comprehensive article<\/a> on the subject, and it appears that the Vikings were very scathing on the subject of men who were on the receiving end of anal sex; but on the other hand, O\u00f0inn was frequently called <em>ergi<\/em>, a term which meant a variety of things including effeminate, passive, and irritable. Practitioners of sei\u00f0r were regarded as <em>ergi<\/em>. As many Viking men had female concubines, it was quite likely that some of them had same-sex relationships (as has been found in other cultures with concubinage). There were also male prostitutes, and priests of Frey who danced with bells and were regarded as \u2018effeminate\u2019 by the Christians. It is also worth noting that all the sagas and tales were written down 200-300 years after the heyday of pagan Viking society, and were written down by Christians who were hostile to homosexuality. \u00a0It seems likely that there were ritualised roles for gender-variant and homosexual people (as is the case in many ancient cultures), and whilst the Vikings may have found <em>ergi<\/em> men uncanny, there was a role for them as priests of Frey and Freyja.<\/p>\n<p>As to the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">ancient Greeks<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Romans<\/a>, they were much more positive about same-sex love, and extolled its pleasures\u00a0and virtues in many texts. Again, the active role was regarded as \u2018manly\u2019 and the passive role as \u2018unmanly\u2019, but same-sex love was not condemned. There were gender-variant\u00a0deities (<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hermaphroditus\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Hermaphrodite<\/a>),\u00a0deities who engaged in same-sex love (Zeus and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ganymede_(mythology)\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ganymede<\/a> being the most well-known example). Again, it was complicated. Ancient pagans were not all sweetness and light in their attitudes to same-sex love, but there were many positive examples of it in ancient pagan mythology, and it was not universally condemned.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3507\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3507\" style=\"width: 400px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ganymede_(mythology)#\/media\/File:Ganymedes_Zeus_MET_L.1999.10.14.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-3507\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/311\/2016\/02\/640px-Ganymedes_Zeus_MET_L.1999.10.14-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"By David Liam Moran - Own work. Image renamed from Image:Ganymede serving Zeus.jpg, CC BY-SA 3.0, https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=2847602\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3507\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo by David Liam Moran \u2013 Own work. <a class=\"new decorated-link\" title=\"File:Ganymede serving Zeus.jpg (page does not exist)\" href=\"\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=File:Ganymede_serving_Zeus.jpg&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" target=\"_blank\">Ganymede serving Zeus<\/a>, <a title=\"Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0\" href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/3.0\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">CC BY-SA 3.0<\/a>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Numerous LGBT Pagan traditions draw their inspiration from ancient examples: the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Eddie_Buczynski#The_Minoan_Brotherhood:_1975.E2.80.931979\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Minoan Brotherhood<\/a>, the Modern Gallae, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antinopolis.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Temple of Antinous<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.witchvox.com\/va\/dt_va.html?a=uswa&amp;c=trads&amp;id=10844\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ekklesia Antinoou<\/a>, and so on. Inclusive Wiccans, whilst not a distinct tradition, and not harking back to any particular ancient example, like to point out that gender-variant and queer magical practitioners\u00a0have been known in just about every culture, and that \u201call acts of love and pleasure are Her rituals\u201d, and any pair of opposites can make polarity. Given that Wicca was only\u00a0developed in the 1950s, and has grown and changed\u00a0since then, there is no excuse for claiming male\/female polarity as some immutable tradition. The idea that only a man and a woman can make polarity is merely\u00a0a\u00a0heterocentric assumption rooted in Victorian notions of gender. The Minoan culture of Crete, which inspired both Gerald Gardner and Eddie Buczynski, certainly included same-sex love.<\/p>\n<h3>Conclusion: it\u2019s complicated<\/h3>\n<p>What all of this shows is that attitudes to homosexuality and gender variance are complicated and varied in all societies, and that how they are viewed by others, and how they are represented symbolically and managed through ritual, has varied over time. It is certainly not the case that we can assume that so-called traditional Christian attitudes to homosexuality and gender variance can just be lifted across into Paganism and assumed to be traditional. How Christians have viewed same-sex love has also varied from one region to another, and from one historical era to another.<\/p>\n<p>So, if you are harking back to some ancient pagan view of the world, and want to adhere to ancient pagan values with regard to LGBTQIA people, it was a mixed picture, and there was no single view (just as there has never been a single view of this or any other issue). \u00a0The ancient pagan world had rituals and roles for LGBTQIA people, and often regarded them as sacred, and therefore a bit uncanny and weird. Hence the eunuch priests of Cybele, the <em>Galli<\/em>, and the <em>ergi<\/em> men devoted to Frey and Freyja. But there is no justification in ancient texts for the kind of virulent homophobia found among some right-wing so-called Pagans.<\/p>\n<p>This leads me to the conclusion that, fascinating though ancient views of sexuality are, we live in our own context and culture, and have to make up our own minds. But perhaps we can recover something of the sacredness of gender-variant\u00a0and homosexual magic by looking at the myths, legends, and practices of the ancient world.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Truly traditional Pagans should regard LGBTQIA people as an integral part of society. There should be rituals for same-sex partners. Lesbian poets should be celebrated and their songs recorded for posterity. Gay lovers such as Hadrian and Antinous, or Patroclus and Achilles, or Pausanias of Athens and the poet Agathon, should be widely celebrated for their heroic love. Transgender deities such as Loki and Vertumnus should be celebrated for their changes of gender. 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She has an MA in Contemporary Religions and Spiritualities from Bath Spa University, and lives and works in Oxford, UK. She has written four books on the mythology and folklore of trees, birds, and animals, and two anthologies of poetry. She is the editor of the Theologies of Immanence wiki, a collaborative project for creating grass-roots Pagan theology. 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