{"id":3638,"date":"2016-04-18T06:25:27","date_gmt":"2016-04-18T10:25:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/?p=3638"},"modified":"2016-04-18T06:45:20","modified_gmt":"2016-04-18T10:45:20","slug":"polytheism-and-apple-pie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2016\/04\/polytheism-and-apple-pie\/","title":{"rendered":"Polytheism and Apple Pie"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/johnbeckett\/2016\/04\/the-bakery-of-the-gods.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">John Beckett has a witty and amusing post up about apple pie, vanilla pudding, and other kinds of dessert<\/a>. He\u2019s got practically the entire readership of Patheos Pagan going \u201cI want apple pie\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>But he\u00a0missed out all the people who are saying that only <em>their<\/em> apple pie is the real apple pie. (John himself acknowledges that there are many kinds of apple pie.)<\/p>\n<h3>Your apple pie is not my apple pie<\/h3>\n<p>I am horrified that John\u00a0puts cinnamon in his\u00a0apple pie, and nothing would persuade me to eat it. That\u2019s <strong>just wrong<\/strong>. Also, I am willing to bet there is too much sugar in his\u00a0apple pie (I like mine really tart). And I bet he\u00a0doesn\u2019t put cheese with it either, because he\u2019s\u00a0not from Yorkshire.<\/p>\n<p>And if you are a British reader, you will not be tasting the same apple pie on your mind\u2019s tongue as an American reader. The poor benighted Americans don\u2019t even have Bramley apples, apparently. <a href=\"http:\/\/christinascucina.com\/2013\/05\/my-favorite-british-apple-pie.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">This recipe article outlines the difference between a British apple pie and an American apple pie<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3>But it\u2019s still apple pie<\/h3>\n<p>However, I would have to grudgingly acknowledge that his\u00a0apple pie is a kind of apple pie (despite the presence of cinnamon and too much sugar) because his\u00a0pie has apples and pastry in it, and therefore it meets the minimum criteria for being described as apple pie. I hope he\u00a0would acknowledge that my apple pie is also apple pie, even if he\u00a0doesn\u2019t like it.<\/p>\n<p>And my Bramley apple pie is definitely better than apple pie <em>made with the wrong kind of apples<\/em>\u00a0and with cinnamon and extra sugar\u2026. for me.<\/p>\n<p>The same applies to polytheism. You might not like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2015\/08\/relational-polytheism-standing-beside-the-gods\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">relational polytheism<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2016\/03\/mystical-polytheism\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">mystical polytheism<\/a>, or devotional polytheism, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/sermonsfromthemound\/2014\/05\/polytheistic-monism-christopher-scott-thompson-part-1\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">polytheistic monism<\/a>, or anything else that can be described as polytheism because it involves many gods\u2026 but it\u2019s still polytheism.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_3639\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-3639\" style=\"width: 400px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-3639\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/311\/2016\/04\/Bramley_Apples-300x171.jpg\" alt=\"By Marcin Floryan - Own work (own photo), CC BY-SA 2.5, https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?curid=1310749\" width=\"400\" height=\"228\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-3639\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bramley Apples: the food of the gods. Photo by <a class=\"new decorated-link\" title=\"User:Mfloryn (page does not exist)\" href=\"\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=User:Mfloryn&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\" target=\"_blank\">Marcin Floryan<\/a> \u2013 o<span class=\"int-own-work\" lang=\"en\">wn work<\/span>, <a title=\"Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.5\" href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">CC BY-SA 2.5<\/a>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>John Beckett has a witty and amusing post up about apple pie, vanilla pudding, and other kinds of dessert. He\u2019s got practically the entire readership of Patheos Pagan going \u201cI want apple pie\u201d. But he\u00a0missed out all the people who are saying that only their apple pie is the real apple pie. 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