{"id":12,"date":"2011-02-24T21:32:52","date_gmt":"2011-02-24T21:32:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/slacktivist\/?p=12"},"modified":"2011-02-24T21:32:52","modified_gmt":"2011-02-24T21:32:52","slug":"cricket-cricket-tumbleweed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/02\/24\/cricket-cricket-tumbleweed\/","title":{"rendered":"Cricket. Cricket. Tumbleweed."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>It\u2019s extremely unlikely that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder reads  this blog, but yesterday he came to exactly the sort of realization we  were discussing in the previous post. Finding himself in a position of  having to defend an absurd stance, he chose instead to stop, turn around  and start over anew.<\/p>\n<p>And so yesterday the attorney general and President Barack Obama let  it be known that since the Defense of Marriage Act was indefensible,  they would no longer try to defend it.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s big news. What\u2019s most telling here is that this forward-moving  reversal arose from the Justice Department, which had been tasked with  the unenviable job of providing valid and compelling legal arguments for  inequality under the law. Like everyone else who has tried, they found  that impossible. And unlike many others who are still trying, they  decided to stop faking it and just admit that the Constitution and  particularly the 14th Amendment really don\u2019t allow for that sort of  unequal treatment.<\/p>\n<p>Bravo.<\/p>\n<p>Ed Whelan, president of the cleverly named Ethics and Public Policy  Center, spoke for opponents of marriage equality everywhere yesterday on  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/2011\/02\/23\/134003990\/Obama-Declares-Defense-of-Marriage-Act-Unconstitutional\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">NPR\u2019s All Things Considered<\/a>, saying: \u201cThere are lots of reasonable arguments to be offered in defense of the Defense of Marriage Act.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is what we\u2019ve come to expect from the incredibly shrinking  opposition to marriage equality: 1) the assertion that there are \u201clots\u201d  of excellent, terribly important arguments in support of a legal ban  against same-sex couples getting married, and 2) the failure to mention  what all those \u201clots\u201d of excellent, terribly important arguments might  actually be.<\/p>\n<p>Nowhere was this made clearer than in the legal battle over  California\u2019s Proposition 8. U.S. district court Judge Vaughn Walker  overturned the state\u2019s ban of same-sex marriage and in his decision on  the case, <em>Perry v. Schwarzenegger,<\/em> Walker noted the lack of  arguments in support of the ban and its codification of inequality under  the law. The judge didn\u2019t criticize the substance of Prop 8 proponents\u2019  arguments, he simply shook his head at the <em>absence<\/em> of them.<\/p>\n<p>Attorney David Boies, who successfully argued against Prop 8 in the case, pointed out why this is so:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It\u2019s easy to sit around and debate and  throw around opinions \u2014 appeal to people\u2019s fear and prejudice, cite  studies that either don\u2019t exist or don\u2019t say what you say they do. In a  court of law you\u2019ve got to come in and you\u2019ve got to support those  opinions. You\u2019ve got to stand up under oath and cross-examination. And  what we saw at trial is that it\u2019s very easy for the people who want to  deprive gay and lesbian citizens the right to vote, to make all sorts of  statements in campaign literature or in debates where they can\u2019t be  cross-examined.<\/p>\n<p>But when they come into court and they  have to support those opinions and they have to defend those opinions  under oath and cross-examination, those opinions just melt away. And  that\u2019s what happened here. There simply wasn\u2019t any evidence. There  weren\u2019t any of those studies. There weren\u2019t any empirical studies.  That\u2019s just made up. That\u2019s junk science.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That junk science and gaping lack of evidence is what Whelan refers  to as \u201clots of reasonable arguments.\u201d By \u201creasonable\u201d there, he means  arguments that can be made to sound reasonable when one is a guest on a  cable news shoutfest \u2014 a place where imaginary \u201cstudies\u201d can be cited  and actual studies can be distorted with impunity, knowing that the TV  host will never challenge you on it and the TV audience won\u2019t easily be  able to double-check your claims. But as Boies noted, those  insupportable claims don\u2019t cut it in court, where one has to testify  under oath. And when called on to testify under oath in court, the  proponents of inequality under the law who seemed so animated on cable  TV suddenly grew very, very quiet.<\/p>\n<p>JUDGE: Can you present any evidence that  recognizing that same-sex couples have the same legal rights as other  couples would harm the institution of marriage, or harm children, or  harm the common good, or harm public health?<\/p>\n<p>SAME-SEX MARRIAGE OPPONENT: [<em>cricket. \u2026 cricket. \u2026 tumbleweed.<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p>That silence, I think, partly accounts for the generational chasm  that seems to have opened in two of the vanguard groups opposed to equal  legal rights for GLBT people: Republicans and evangelical Christians.<\/p>\n<p>Polls of both groups continue to show a large disparity between the  antigay views of older members and the lack of such sentiment among  younger members. Those younger Republicans and evangelicals recognize  the need for non-sectarian legal arguments in support of nonsectarian  legal discrimination, and the lack of such arguments from their older  counterparts is a big part of the reason that older, antigay Republicans  are now seeing, for example, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hrc.org\/NY4marriage\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">their own daughters recording videos on behalf of New Yorkers for Marriage Equality<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Another component of this generational divide is that younger  evangelicals and Republicans tend to have friends, acquaintances and  co-workers who did not hide their GLBT identity the way the older  generation\u2019s friends, acquaintances and co-workers were forced to hide  theirs. The younger generation thus <em>knows<\/em> people, and knowing  them, they know that these people are not the dangerous bogeymen that  the older generation makes them out to be. The younger generation has  learned that what the older generation has to say about this issue  cannot be trusted \u2014 it is objectively not true.<\/p>\n<p>The older generation of anti-gay evangelicals says that this amounts  to a disturbing \u201cmoral relativism\u201d on the part of these younger  Christians, but what the younger Christians see is an immoral and deeply  ingrained dishonesty on the part of these older evangelicals who  continue to bear false witness against GLBT people. The \u201cmoral  relativism\u201d they see is the older generation\u2019s willingness to say false  things in pursuit of a political agenda \u2014 the ends-justifies-the-means  reasoning of those who think lying about GLBT people is somehow  justified in pursuit of the supposedly greater good of \u201ctraditional  values.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The older generation of antigay Republicans and antigay evangelicals  has slowly come to recognize that they cannot rely solely on sectarian  religious arguments to make the case for denying legal equality. They  realize that they can\u2019t just quote Leviticus, that they will need to  come up with compelling, rational, nonsectarian reasons that trump the  fundamental fairness of equal protection under the law.<\/p>\n<p>But they haven\u2019t quite yet come up with what those reasons might be  \u2014 at least not any that they\u2019d be willing testify to under oath. (Sure,  there are plenty of people like Tony Perkins who are willing to go on  cable TV and make stuff up, but ask him to repeat his scary stories in  court and you\u2019ll again hear nothing but crickets in the distance.)<\/p>\n<p>This fumbling about for a nonsectarian argument is itself a reason  that the antigay lobby is rapidly losing any pretense of credibility. It  has become glaringly obvious that theirs is a sectarian, religious  claim desperately seeking a nonsectarian excuse, meaning that whatever  purported legal argument they eventually concoct will be hard for anyone  to take seriously. It will be clear to all that they haven\u2019t arrived at  a conclusion based on the compelling logic of nonsectarian reasoning,  but that they started out with sectarian biases for which they later  latched onto dubious arguments as a mask.<\/p>\n<p>Those dubious arguments \u2014 if they ever come up with any \u2014 clearly  aren\u2019t worth the expense of taxpayer money it would have taken for the  Department of Justice to try to defend. Paying government attorneys to  defend the indefensible in court would be a classic example of the  \u201cwaste, fraud and abuse\u201d everyone says they want to eliminate from the  federal govenment.<\/p>\n<p>Kudos to Holder and Obama for recognizing that and for refusing to  continue playing this absurd game of pretending this is an argument  between two legal, constitutional or rational viewpoints.<\/p>\n<p>People like Ed Whelan will continue to tell reporters that \u201cthere are  lots of reasonable arguments to be offered in defense of the Defense of  Marriage Act,\u201d while failing to make any of them or even to say what  they might be. And the pretense that these arguments remain unsettled  will likely continue for some time. But these arguments have not been  settled only because they have never been formulated or stated or  defended. Advocates of equality under the law have made their argument  and stated their case. Advocates of inequality have not and, it seems, <em>cannot.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013 \u2013<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update:<\/strong> Southern Baptist Hierarchy spokesman Richard  Land was just on NPR arguing that \u201celites\u201d in the courts may  consistently find no basis for legally enforced discrimination, but that  \u201cthe people\u201d have supported excluding GLBT people from equal protection  in numerous elections in many states. So Land\u2019s argument is that  majority rule should not be subject to the rule of law and that the  majority, by virtue of outnumbering the minority, should be free to  discriminate against that minority if that\u2019s what the majority votes to  do. This is Land\u2019s idea of \u201cdemocracy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So now you know why Richard Land does not count himself among the  egg-headed elites with their fancy Constitution and laws and whatnot.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s extremely unlikely that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder reads this blog, but yesterday he came to exactly the sort of realization we were discussing in the previous post. Finding himself in a position of having to defend an absurd stance, he chose instead to stop, turn around and start over anew. 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