True story from back at Timothy Christian School:<\/p>\n
We were studying evangelism and the teacher was going over something called the \u201cRomans Road\u201d \u2014 a series of passages from St. Paul\u2019s epistle to the Romans that described humanity\u2019s sinfulness and need for salvation. Evangelism, by definition, involves talking with people who do not already share our faith. Such people, I had noticed, also tended not to regard our Bible as their Bible, so I asked the teacher what we should say to someone who tells us they don\u2019t believe in the Bible.<\/p>\n
\u201cYou show them II Timothy 3:16,\u201d the teacher said. And then she quoted it, \u201cAll scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.\u201d<\/p>\n
When I suggested that someone who didn\u2019t believe in the Bible wasn\u2019t likely to believe in II Timothy any more than they believed in Romans, she responded by quoting another passage, II Peter 1:21, and then another from the 119th Psalm.<\/p>\n
It went on like that for a bit, like something from Abbot and Costello, with both of us getting more frustrated as she quoted Bible verse after Bible verse about the authority of the Bible and me not doing a very good job of expressing that someone who doesn\u2019t believe in Bible verses won\u2019t be convinced by a Bible verse that tells them to believe in Bible verses. Until finally she said this:<\/p>\n
\u201cWell if they still<\/em> don\u2019t believe in the Bible after you\u2019ve showed them all those verses, then I guess they just can\u2019t read<\/em>.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"It went on like that for a bit, like something from Abbot and Costello, with both of us getting more frustrated as she quoted Bible verse after Bible verse about the authority of the Bible and me not doing a very good job of expressing that someone who doesn’t believe in Bible verses won’t be convinced by a Bible verse that tells them to believe in Bible verses.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":141,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-17977","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"\n
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