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\u2022 \u201c\u2026\u00a0then he asked me would I yes to say yes<\/a> my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Ye<\/a>s.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2022 \u201cIt also raises the question of how daft an employee and\/or manager must be to post that sign without realizing what it was advertising. Unless of course this was a deliberate bird-flip to Sainsbury\u2019s management by a disgruntled worker. In which case, well done<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2022 The late Paul Crouch was a pioneer in televangelism and a proponent of the perverse \u201cprosperity gospel,\u201d so I always suspected he was a grifter with several walk-in closets full of skeletons, contempt for his audience, and a team of fixers and attorneys who kept his secrets secret. But I still don\u2019t know what to make of the allegations about Crouch\u00a0in his recently unearthed FBI file<\/a>. I know Crouch was a crook who couldn\u2019t be trusted, but I also know that J. Edgar Hoover\u2019s agency has a history of compiling dubious dossiers on public figures.<\/p>\n

That Paul Crouch was laundering money seems very plausible. But gun-running seems out of character \u2014 too risky and labor-intensive for such a self-indulgent con man.<\/p>\n

But if I\u2019m not sure that I can believe all the allegations in Crouch\u2019s FBI file, I am<\/em> sure that I would love the screenplay and the movie based on everything in that FBI file being true. Harry Dean Stanton would\u2019ve been perfect<\/em> as Paul Crouch 30 years ago, but who would we cast today?\u00a0Casting suggestions for both Paul and Jan Crouch, please, in comments below.<\/p>\n

$\"Crouches\"$ <\/a><\/p>\n

\u2022 Brian Pellot: \u201cIf Christians are uncomfortable with devout or flippant non-Christian faiths seeping into the public square, they\u2019d be wise to remember that many people are uncomfortable when Jesus, God and the Bible appear in government-sponsored spaces. They\u2019d also be wise to remember the Establishment Clause<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2022 \u201c 8 Thoughts on Receiving Charity in the Form of a Convertible<\/a>\u201d \u2014 wisdom, insight, honesty, self-scrutiny and gratitude from Jennifer Ellison.<\/p>\n

\u2022 Congratulations to Rob Tisinai<\/a>!<\/p>\n

\u2022 Dana Bolger<\/a> on the promise, and the limitations, of the \u201cIt\u2019s On Us\u201d campaign against domestic violence. Bolger is talking about the differentiated, overlapping, mutual responsibilities we all have in our individually and corporately varied contexts, roles and relationships.\u00a0This is what subsidiarity looks like.<\/p>\n

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