{"id":4284,"date":"2011-09-29T00:42:05","date_gmt":"2011-09-29T04:42:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/slacktivist\/?p=4284"},"modified":"2011-09-29T00:42:05","modified_gmt":"2011-09-29T04:42:05","slug":"postpremillennial-politics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/29\/postpremillennial-politics\/","title":{"rendered":"Postpremillennial politics"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Sharp-eyed students of American pop-eschatologies may have noticed an inconsistency in the views I\u2019ve attributed to Republican presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/28\/anti-antichristianity-influences-politics\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">previous post<\/a> cites a couple of examples of Bachmann repeating the sorts of conspiracy theories popular among \u201cBible prophecy\u201d premillennial dispensationalist fans. Yet in an earlier post \u2014 \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/slacktivist\/2011\/08\/28\/if-michelle-bachmann-doesnt-want-to-be-regarded-as-having-close-ties-to-dominionists-then-she-should-stop-hiring-them\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">If Michelle Bachmann doesn\u2019t want to be regarded as having close ties to dominionists then she should stop hiring them<\/a>\u201d \u2014 I noted that her campaign staff includes prominent theonomist Peter Waldron. \u201cReconstructionist\u201d theonomists like Waldron are <em>post-<\/em>millennialists who reject the \u201cprophecy\u201d schemes of premillennial dispensationalists.<\/p>\n<p>How can I simultaneously detect both pre- <em>and<\/em> post-millennial influences on Bachmann\u2019s campaign? Doesn\u2019t that mean I\u2019m contradicting myself?<\/p>\n<p>Well, it would mean that \u2014 but only if Michele Bachmann\u2019s theology is assumed to be coherent and internally consistent, rather than a contradictory and incoherent hodge-podge of American evangelical notions. The short explanation is that contradiction and inconsistency on Bachmann\u2019s part does not constitute contradiction and inconsistency on the part of anyone who notices it.<\/p>\n<p>The longer explanation probably requires a more substantial future post exploring the postmillennial eschatology of dominion theology and how it relates to the premillennial pop-eschatology now dominant among American evangelicals. The former tends to be optimistic and utopian, the latter pessimistic and fatalistic about the future. The two views are opposites, yet many evangelicals hold to aspects of both \u2014 a dissonance reflected throughout evangelicals\u2019 political engagement in America.<\/p>\n<p>For a case study of exactly that tension writ large, see Ken Burns\u2019 upcoming PBS miniseries <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pbs.org\/kenburns\/prohibition\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Prohibition<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sharp-eyed students of American pop-eschatologies may have noticed an inconsistency in the views I\u2019ve attributed to Republican presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann. The previous post cites a couple of examples of Bachmann repeating the sorts of conspiracy theories popular among \u201cBible prophecy\u201d premillennial dispensationalist fans. Yet in an earlier post \u2014 \u201cIf Michelle Bachmann doesn\u2019t [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":111,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[237,27,28],"class_list":["post-4284","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-evangelicals","tag-evangelicals","tag-politics","tag-religious-right"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Postpremillennial politics<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Sharp-eyed students of American pop-eschatologies may have noticed an inconsistency in the views I&#039;ve attributed to Republican presidential candidate Rep.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/29\/postpremillennial-politics\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Postpremillennial politics\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Sharp-eyed students of American pop-eschatologies may have noticed an inconsistency in the views I&#039;ve attributed to Republican presidential candidate Rep.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/29\/postpremillennial-politics\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"slacktivist\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2011-09-29T04:42:05+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Fred Clark\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Fred Clark\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"1 minute\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/29\/postpremillennial-politics\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/29\/postpremillennial-politics\/\",\"name\":\"Postpremillennial politics\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2011-09-29T04:42:05+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2011-09-29T04:42:05+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/#\/schema\/person\/0173c85e46e7e0951fef5752bed78b6e\"},\"description\":\"Sharp-eyed students of American pop-eschatologies may have noticed an inconsistency in the views I've attributed to Republican presidential candidate Rep.\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/29\/postpremillennial-politics\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/29\/postpremillennial-politics\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2011\/09\/29\/postpremillennial-politics\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Postpremillennial politics\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/\",\"name\":\"slacktivist\",\"description\":\"&quot;Test everything; 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