{"id":67320,"date":"2024-05-29T16:46:16","date_gmt":"2024-05-29T20:46:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/?p=67320"},"modified":"2024-05-29T16:46:16","modified_gmt":"2024-05-29T20:46:16","slug":"start-spreading-the-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2024\/05\/29\/start-spreading-the-news\/","title":{"rendered":"Start spreading the news"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u2022 \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/evangelical-seminary-lgbtq-samesex-marriage-10f734487e3097055ae3052d75618f06\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">California evangelical seminary ponders changes that would make it more welcoming to LGBTQ students<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>If Fuller changes its policies, does that mean they would rehire Ruth Schmidt, who was <a href=\"https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2024\/02\/02\/fuller-seminary-senior-director-fired-for-refusal-to-sign-non-lgbtq-affirming-statement\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">fired by the seminary back in January for objecting to the anti-gay language in its statement of faith<\/a>? Or maybe they\u2019d consider bringing back theologian J.R. Daniel Kirk who was forced out a few years back for \u201cpondering changes\u201d that were not yet permitted to be pondered?<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s likely too soon to consider such questions, given that the pondering-pushback-penitence cycle of white evangelicalism suggests that the outrage industrial complex of white-\/Christian-nationalism is about to go scorched earth on the school.<\/p>\n<p>John Hawthorne makes this point in <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/evangelical-seminary-lgbtq-samesex-marriage-10f734487e3097055ae3052d75618f06\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Deepa Bharath\u2019s AP report<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hawthorne, whose upcoming book argues that Christian colleges should put students front and center instead of worrying about critics, anticipates \u201csignificant blowback\u201d from conservative Christians should Fuller move forward with the revisions.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI hope they have a plan on how to manage the aftermath, the storm, when it comes,\u201d he said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For some dismal context presented here as prediction, see earlier:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2016\/01\/04\/intervarsity-takes-a-firehose-to-pentecost-in-a-rush-to-quench-the-spirit\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">InterVarsity takes a firehose to Pentecost in a rush to quench the Spirit<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2016\/01\/04\/toddlers-on-a-treadmill-why-evangelicals-cant-even-take-baby-steps-toward-justice\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Toddlers on a treadmill: Why evangelicals can\u2019t even take baby steps toward justice<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u2022 The Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability is an accreditation agency for white evangelical ministries and nonprofits that reassures potential donors they\u2019re not getting ripped off. Mostly, they\u2019re accountants \u2014 an outside agency that comes in to look over the books and makes sure there\u2019s no funny business and that the money raised is being spent on whatever the church or ministry or mission group says its spending it on.<\/p>\n<p>But the ECFA also realizes that the financial health of such ministries depends on more than just responsible bookkeeping. So it\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/christianitytoday.com\/news\/2024\/may\/ecfa-evangelical-accountability-leader-integrity-standard-m.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">adding a new standard to its certification process involving \u201cleadership integrity.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The accreditation agency for over 2,700 evangelical nonprofits wants to raise its standards to address \u201cone of the greatest financial risks\u201d posed to churches and ministries today: moral failures by leadership.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The general idea makes sense. Consider, for example, the case of Living Word International Church in Midland, Mich., led by televangelist Mark Barclay. As far as I know, the church is not mishandling donations or funneling money from the offering plate into a slush fund for its staff. An audit by a whole team of accountants might not find anything amiss in its bookkeeping. But donors might also want to consider this factor: \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/julieroys.com\/third-leader-saylor-faces-sexual-assault-charges-televangelist-mark-barclay-church\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Third Leader Faces Sexual Assault Charges at Televangelist Mark Barclay\u2019s Michigan Church<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This certainly does, as ECFA says, present a financial risk to the work of Living Word International.<\/p>\n<p>But dealing with such \u201cmoral failures by leadership\u201d isn\u2019t really something that CPAs are trained to do and I\u2019m not confident that ECFA\u2019s well-intentioned efforts will accomplish much. It\u2019s new standard says, \u201cEvery organization shall proactively care for its leader and support the integrity of its leader in conformity with ECFA\u2019s Policy for Excellence in Supporting Leadership Integrity.\u201d Translated into human-speak, the idea is that the nonprofit\u2019s board needs to keep an eye on the organization\u2019s leaders to ensure that they\u2019re not sneaking off to extort handjobs <em>a la<\/em> Ravi Zacharias.<\/p>\n<p>Take that idea to Mark Barclay\u2019s place and see how it might work in practice. There, the task of preventing \u201cmoral failures by leadership\u201d would fall to its associate pastors and church elders. Two of those associate pastors and one of the church elders have been charged with sex crimes against children.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 So apparently <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wonkette.com\/p\/how-does-trump-get-impressionable\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">perpetually tipsy former judge Jeanne Pirro<\/a> said this yesterday on the cable channel Fox, \u201cYou know, my question for Robert De Niro is what have YOU done for New York City, Robert De Niro?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-67323\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/52\/2024\/05\/NYNY-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\">There are a lot of answers to that question, but here is one example of what Robert De Niro has done for New York, New York: <em>BOMP bomp badda domp BOMP bomp badda domp BOMP bomp badda domp BOMP \u2026.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s composer <a href=\"https:\/\/freshairarchive.org\/segments\/fresh-air-pays-tribute-music-john-kander-and-fred-ebb\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Kander telling the story<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Fred (Ebb) and I were writing songs for a film called \u201cNew York, New York.\u201d Martin Scorsese was directing it and starred Liza Minnelli and Robert De Niro. We wrote five or six songs and went down to Marty\u2019s office to play them. And Liza and Marty were there, and then in the background \u2014 I don\u2019t know if we got introduced or not \u2014 was Robert De Niro sitting on a couch. I\u2019m not sure I even knew that at the time. Anyway, we played the songs for them, and everything was all set, until suddenly, we saw this arm waving from the couch. And Marty went over and said, excuse me, De Niro wants to speak to me. And then we watched what was a very animated conversation. We couldn\u2019t hear anything.<\/p>\n<p>And Scorsese came back and, in a very embarrassed way, said that De Niro had felt that the title song, which was very much attached to him in the film, was just too lightweight compared to the song that was attached to Liza, which was \u201cThe World Goes Round.\u201d And would we consider taking another crack at it? And of course, we left and thought, some actor is going to tell us how to write a song. And we could not have been more internally pompous, I think. Anyway, we went back to Fred\u2019s apartment, and I think because the juices of rage were coursing through our bodies, we wrote another song very fast, probably 45 minutes, called \u201cNew York, New York,\u201d and took it back, and that was the song that was used in the movie and became the song which is now pretty well known.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Kander says the now-iconic opening vamp in that song was his angry, sarcastic response to De Niro\u2019s suggestion that it needed to be \u201cbigger.\u201d So.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fuller Seminary takes a tiny step forward, prepares for retreat. 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A former managing editor of Prism magazine, Fred worked in the parachurch nonprofit world for a decade and then for a decade in the newspaper biz. He began blogging in 2002. In 2003 he began writing a review of the best-selling Left Behind series. Eight years later he still hasn\u2019t finished reviewing the second book of that series and the experience has left him a broken shell of a man. Fred knows the difference between the possessive \u201cits\u201d and the contraction \u201cit\u2019s,\u201d and he is acutely bothered when others mistakenly confuse the two, yet he himself just kind of instinctively types the apostrophe whether or not it belongs there. Some feel this is his greatest hypocrisy, but those who know him better know better. He\u2019s guilty of much greater hypocrisies. Jesus loves Fred far more than Fred loves Jesus, but he at least has the decency to recognize the unfairness of that lopsided relationship and he has long wished that he were better at maybe kind of sort of doing something more to correct that some day. A Baptist, an amateur, a Gen-Xer, a Gemini and a Mets fan, Fred lives in Southeastern Pennsylvania with his wife and two teenage daughters. 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