{"id":7510,"date":"2012-05-04T15:57:08","date_gmt":"2012-05-04T19:57:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/?p=7510"},"modified":"2012-05-04T15:57:08","modified_gmt":"2012-05-04T19:57:08","slug":"if-i-cant-change-your-mind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2012\/05\/04\/if-i-cant-change-your-mind\/","title":{"rendered":"If I can’t change your mind"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

<\/iframe>\n<\/p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/reinholdbieber.tumblr.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Reinhold Bieber<\/a>.<\/p>\nYeah? <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/badastronomy\/2012\/05\/04\/the-heartland-institute-sinks-to-a-new-low\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">You know who else<\/em> believes in science?<\/a><\/p>\nGuns don\u2019t kill people. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americablog.com\/2012\/05\/more-shooting-rampages-in-md-and-az.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">People with guns<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/rs\/2012\/05\/04\/former-guns-ammo-editor-charged-in-arizona-slaying\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">kill people<\/a>.<\/p>\n\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/crooksandliars.com\/karoli\/shep-smith-politics-weird-and-creepy\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Politics is weird. And creepy<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.philipvickersfithian.com\/2012\/05\/new-insight-into-what-happened-to-lost.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-7511\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/52\/2012\/05\/Croatoan-300x168.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\"><\/a>\u201cIf there\u2019s a contest for <a href=\"http:\/\/tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2012\/05\/pa_voter_id_law_viviette_applewhite.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">most sympathetic plaintiff in a lawsuit opposing a state voter ID law<\/a>, Pennsylvania\u2019s Viviette Applewhite wins.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/loveiswhatyoudo.wordpress.com\/2012\/05\/03\/stick-it-to-the-slumlords\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Their landlords treat them in ways my landlords have never treated me<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cComplementarianism isn\u2019t working \u2014 in marriages and in church leadership \u2014 because <a href=\"http:\/\/rachelheldevans.com\/complementarians-patriarchy\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">it\u2019s not actually complementarianism; it\u2019s patriarchy<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cThe contention that [God] was the kind of author who overlaid the glaringly human text with some esoteric meaning recoverable independently of the meaning it had to the original audiences and available only to subsequent theologians <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/exploringourmatrix\/2012\/05\/quote-of-the-day-steve-douglas.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">reminds me quite a lot of the infamous \u2018Bible Codes\u2019 from a couple years back<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cEven on this pastor\u2019s own terms, I can\u2019t wrap my mind around <a href=\"http:\/\/brokentelegraph.com\/2012\/04\/25\/no-separation-of-church-and-state-say-conservatives-except-on-healthcare-food-and-other-jesusy-things-like-peace\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the magnitude of ignorance in that short tweet<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cThe dramatic cuts of $169 billion to SNAP proposed this year in the U.S. House would have <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.bread.org\/2012\/05\/50000-per-church-would-devastate-us.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a devastating impact on all of our congregations\u2019 efforts to address increasing need<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cRomney seems to have forgotten that the firefighters he came face-to-face with are one category of <a href=\"http:\/\/maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com\/_news\/2012\/05\/03\/11522155-the-limits-of-transactional-politics\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Americans whose economic pain he\u2019s supposed to be in favor of<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cIf I can get them to understand that <a href=\"http:\/\/2012.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2012\/05\/missouri-only-openly-gay-republican-legislator.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">putting forth legislation might be harmful to even members of their own party<\/a>, they might think twice.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2012\/05\/40-years-of-workers-left-behind-chart.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">It is hard to see how reestablishing a link between productivity and pay can occur without restoring decent and improved labor standards<\/a>, restoring the minimum wage to a level corresponding to half the average wage (as it was in the late 1960s), and making real the ability of workers to obtain and practice collective bargaining.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cNicole Ferko\u2019s $60,000 in student loans made her <a href=\"http:\/\/www.faithinpubliclife.org\/blog\/student-debt-hurting-religious-vocations\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">put off her dream of becoming a nun for a decade<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cThe instant he checked the diabetes box in the medical records system, he assured that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scholarsandrogues.com\/2012\/05\/02\/when-doctors-follow-the-rules-are-they-violating-the-hippocratic-oath\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">no insurance company would touch me at any price<\/em><\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\u201cShoulda carried the goddamn one. <a href=\"http:\/\/paulbibeau.blogspot.com\/2012\/05\/2012-election-message-from-gordon.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">That\u2019s the story of US foreign policy right there<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u00a0 Reinhold Bieber. Yeah? You know who else believes in science? Guns don\u2019t kill people. People with guns kill people. \u201cPolitics is weird. And creepy.\u201d \u201cIf there\u2019s a contest for most sympathetic plaintiff in a lawsuit opposing a state voter ID law, Pennsylvania\u2019s Viviette Applewhite wins.\u201d \u201cTheir landlords treat them in ways my landlords have […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":141,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7510","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"\n<title>If I can't change your mind<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"  Reinhold Bieber. Yeah? You know who else believes in science? Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people. "Politics is weird. 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