{"id":7620,"date":"2012-05-10T00:09:41","date_gmt":"2012-05-10T04:09:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/?p=7620"},"modified":"2012-07-03T19:46:07","modified_gmt":"2012-07-03T23:46:07","slug":"the-man-comes-around-on-marriage-equality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2012\/05\/10\/the-man-comes-around-on-marriage-equality\/","title":{"rendered":"The man comes around on marriage equality"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>So we just witnessed history.<\/p>\n<p>This is something that had never happened before. And now it has. No sitting president had ever said this before. And now one has. <em>Cool.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>ABC News: <\/strong>\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/gma.yahoo.com\/blogs\/abc-blogs\/president-obama-affirms-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">President Obama Affirms His Support for Same-Sex Marriage<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">\u201cI have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors, when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together; when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that \u2018don\u2019t ask, don\u2019t tell\u2019 is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I\u2019ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,\u201d Obama told [ABC News\u2019 Robin] Roberts in an interview.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">\u2026 \u201cIt\u2019s interesting, some of this is also generational,\u201d the president continued. \u201cYou know when I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same-sex equality or, you know, sexual orientation, that they believe in equality. They are much more comfortable with it. You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we\u2019re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn\u2019t dawn on them that somehow their friends\u2019 parents would be treated differently. It doesn\u2019t make sense to them and, frankly, that\u2019s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">\u2026 \u201cThis is something that, you know, we\u2019ve talked about over the years and [Michelle Obama], you know, she feels the same way, she feels the same way that I do. And that is that, in the end the values that I care most deeply about and she cares most deeply about is how we treat other people and, you know, I, you know, we are both practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others but, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it\u2019s also the Golden Rule, you know, treat others the way you would want to be treated. And I think that\u2019s what we try to impart to our kids and that\u2019s what motivates me as president and I figure the most consistent I can be in being true to those precepts, the better I\u2019ll be as a as a dad and a husband and, hopefully, the better I\u2019ll be as president.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>E.J. Graff:<\/strong> \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/prospect.org\/article\/i-am-gobsmacked\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">I Am Gobsmacked<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Of course, there are many questions that the pundits will be flapping on about all week. \u2026 But I can\u2019t think about any of that right now. Because apparently not everything in the world is politics, is it? Sometimes \u2014 just for a minute \u2014 politics is very, very personal.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">\u2026 There\u2019s something very deep about having your government declare you a stranger to its laws, defining your love as outside all respectable recognition. For my president to stand up and say that I <em>should<\/em> belong fully to my nation, that my wife and I <em>should<\/em> be considered as fully married as my brother and <em>his<\/em> wife \u2014 well, it reopens and washes out some very deeply incised sense of exclusion, a scar inflicted when, at age 15, I first panicked at the realization that I might be queer.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">But not so queer, really, if even my president believes that my marriage is the equal of his. Politics tomorrow. Today is a good day.<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com\/entries\/shep-smith-gop-is-on-wrong-side-of\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com\/entries\/shep-smith-gop-is-on-wrong-side-of\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Shep Smith<\/a>: <\/strong>\u201cI am curious whether you believe in this time of rising debt and medical issues and all the rest, if Republicans would go out on a limb and try to make this a campaign issue while sitting very firmly without much question on the wrong side of history.\u201d On <em>FOX News<\/em>.<strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Andrew Sullivan:<\/strong> \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com\/2012\/05\/obama-lets-go-of-fear.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Obama Lets Go of Fear<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">So let me simply say: I think of all the gay kids out there who now know they have their president on their side. I think of Maurice Sendak, who just died, whose decades-long relationship was never given the respect it deserved. I think of the centuries and decades in which gay people found it impossible to believe that marriage and inclusion in their own families was possible for them, so crushed were they by the weight of social and religious pressure. I think of all those in the plague years shut out of hospital rooms, thrown out of apartments, written out of wills, treated like human garbage because they loved another human being. I think of Frank Kameny. I think of the gay parents who now feel their president is behind their sacrifices and their love for their children.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">The interview changes no laws; it has no tangible effect. But it reaffirms for me the integrity of this man we are immensely lucky to have in the White House. Obama\u2019s journey on this has been like that of many other Americans, when faced with the actual reality of gay lives and gay relationships. Yes, there was politics in a lot of it. But not all of it. I was in the room long before the 2008 primaries when Obama spoke to the mother of a gay son about marriage equality. He said he was for equality, but not marriage. Five years later, he sees \u2014 as we all see \u2014 that you cannot have one without the other. But even then, you knew he saw that woman\u2019s son as his equal as a citizen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rob Tisinai: <\/strong>\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/wakingupnow.com\/blog\/obama-opens-the-yellow-brick-road\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Obama Opens the Yellow Brick Road<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Obama can claim another civil rights first. He hasn\u2019t just broken the color barrier \u2014 he\u2019s opened the yellow brick road.\u00a0 He\u2019s giving back, repaying the fighters and activists of previous generations who made his own election possible, so that now, somewhere, in a tiny little no-name corner of the nation, a bright and talented gay kid has suddenly realized: <em>I can be president.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>David R. Henson:<\/strong> \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davidhenson\/2012\/05\/obama-marriage-equality-and-the-political-ploy-of-liberation\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Obama, Marriage Equality and the Political Ploy of Liberation<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">No matter how politically motivated his endorsement of marriage equality may be, Obama still did what no other president has done, what very few politicians have done.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">He endorsed marriage equality without equivocation.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Don\u2019t let the political timing of his announcement limit the recognition that this is a profound moment of justice and liberation coming not from activists but from the highest office in our country.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">For once, the voice of liberation is the voice of the President.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tony Jones:<\/strong> \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2012\/05\/09\/obama-gets-off-the-pot-on-gay-marriage\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Obama Gets Off the Pot on Gay Marriage<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Many  will write this off as yet another political ploy \u2014 an attempt to  re-ignite young voters next November. It may do that, or it may backfire  \u2014 this may turn out to be Obama\u2019s Jimmy Carter moment.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Regardless  of the politics of it, the significance will long-lasting and  far-flung, for it\u2019s difficult to imagine anything that would do more to  normalize homosexuality in our culture than this.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Kudos, Mr. President.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Samuel Smith:<\/strong> \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.scholarsandrogues.com\/2012\/05\/09\/when-followers-lead-the-leaders-will-follow-obama-supports-gay-marriage\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">When followers lead, the leaders will follow<\/a>\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">As I said last night, losing on Amendment One was a temporary setback, the lost battle that sparks us to win the war. Today, thanks to the passion and the righteous outrage of so many millions of Americans, Mr. Obama has finally accepted that to lead, he must follow the will of the people and stand for what is right.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">Make no mistake. May 8 was a dark day for civil rights in North Carolina, but May 9 marks one of our biggest victories yet. It\u2019s now up to us to lead the president to more important realizations.<\/p>\n<p>See also:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>eQualityGiving.org: \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.equalitygiving.org\/Accomplishments-by-the-Administration-and-Congress-on-LGBT-Equality\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Accomplishments by the Administration and Congress on LGBT Equality<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<li>\u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/whenobamaendorsed.tumblr.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">When Obama Endorsed Same-Sex Marriage<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<li>Amanda Marcotte: \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/pandagon.net\/index.php\/site\/obama-comes-out-for-gay-marriage-why-this-is-a-bfd#When:20:16:30Z\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Obama comes out for gay marriage: Why this is a BFD<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<li>RJ @ When Love Comes to Town: \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/rj-whenlovecomestotown.blogspot.com\/2012\/05\/stunned-and-encouraged.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Stunned \u2026 and encouraged<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<li>David Badash: \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/thenewcivilrightsmovement.com\/breaking-president-obama-supports-gay-marriage-cites-christ-and-the-golden-rule\/politics\/2012\/05\/09\/39231\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">President Obama Supports Gay Marriage, Cites Christ and the Golden Rule<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<li>David Badash: \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/thenewcivilrightsmovement.com\/gop-fox-religious-right-freak-out-over-obama-gay-marriage-support\/politics\/2012\/05\/09\/39256\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">GOP, FOX, Religious Right Freak Out Over Obama Gay Marriage Support<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<li>Kenneth Quinnell: \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/crooksandliars.com\/kenneth-quinnell\/major-labor-unions-back-obamas-su\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Major Labor Unions Back Obama\u2019s Support for Marriage Equality<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<li>Cheryl Contee: \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jackandjillpolitics.com\/2012\/05\/how-to-talk-to-your-christian-black-relatives-about-obama-same-sex-marriage\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">How to Talk to Your Christian Black Relatives About Obama &amp; Same-Sex Marriage<\/a>\u201c<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So we just witnessed history. This is something that had never happened before. And now it has. No sitting president had ever said this before. And now one has. Cool. ABC News: \u201cPresident Obama Affirms His Support for Same-Sex Marriage\u201d \u201cI have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":141,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[17,53,52],"class_list":["post-7620","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-equality","tag-gay-rights","tag-homosexuality"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The man comes around on marriage equality<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"So we just witnessed history. This is something that had never happened before. 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A former managing editor of Prism magazine, Fred worked in the parachurch nonprofit world for a decade and then for a decade in the newspaper biz. He began blogging in 2002. In 2003 he began writing a review of the best-selling Left Behind series. Eight years later he still hasn\u2019t finished reviewing the second book of that series and the experience has left him a broken shell of a man. Fred knows the difference between the possessive \u201cits\u201d and the contraction \u201cit\u2019s,\u201d and he is acutely bothered when others mistakenly confuse the two, yet he himself just kind of instinctively types the apostrophe whether or not it belongs there. Some feel this is his greatest hypocrisy, but those who know him better know better. He\u2019s guilty of much greater hypocrisies. Jesus loves Fred far more than Fred loves Jesus, but he at least has the decency to recognize the unfairness of that lopsided relationship and he has long wished that he were better at maybe kind of sort of doing something more to correct that some day. A Baptist, an amateur, a Gen-Xer, a Gemini and a Mets fan, Fred lives in Southeastern Pennsylvania with his wife and two teenage daughters. 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