{"id":5377,"date":"2022-09-21T08:17:20","date_gmt":"2022-09-21T12:17:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/socialjesus\/?p=5377"},"modified":"2022-09-22T09:20:15","modified_gmt":"2022-09-22T13:20:15","slug":"stories-that-shape-us-part2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/socialjesus\/2022\/09\/stories-that-shape-us-part2\/","title":{"rendered":"Stories that Shape Us (Part 2 of 3)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p class=\"p1\"><i>Welcome readers! Please subscribe through the button on the right.<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">(Read this series from its beginning <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/socialjesus\/2022\/09\/stories-that-shape-us-part1\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"s1\">here<\/span><\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-5371\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/1222\/2022\/09\/SJ2184.png\" alt=\"stained glass\" width=\"580\" height=\"300\"><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">I also want to say something about the Hellenistic idea of flaming torment in the afterlife in this story due to its abuse by Christians throughout history.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">This week\u2019s story is a folk tale, but the 1<span class=\"s1\"><sup>st<\/sup><\/span> Century historian Josephus does tell us that some Pharisees taught of an eternal punishment after death:<\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\">\u201cThey [the Pharisees] say that all souls are imperishable, but that the souls of good men only pass into other bodies while the souls of evil men are subject to eternal [<i>aidious<\/i>] punishment [<i>timoria<\/i>]. (Josephus, <i>The Wars of the Jews<\/i>, Vol. II, Chapter 8, Paragraph 14; words in brackets added.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The Pharisaical schools weren\u2019t monolithic: they had a rich diversity of ideas about afterlife and resurrection. Josephus\u2019 report could not have been true of all Pharisees, then, but there must have been enough for Josephus to describe their beliefs this way.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The words Josephus used to communicate what these Pharisees were teaching are also interesting. The Greek word he used for eternal is <i>aidious<\/i> and the Greek word he used for punishment is <i>timoria<\/i>. According to Louw and Nida\u2019s <i>Greek\u2013English Lexicon of the New Testament Based on Semantic Domains<\/i>, <i>aidious<\/i> meant <span class=\"s2\">\u201c<\/span>Pertaining to an unlimited duration of time.\u201d <i>Timoria<\/i>, on the other hand, meant <span class=\"s2\">\u201c<\/span>to punish, with the implication of causing people to suffer what they deserve.\u201d Thayer<span class=\"s2\">\u2019<\/span>s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament explains that the nature of this word is<span class=\"s2\"> \u201c<\/span>penal and has reference to the satisfaction of him who inflicts.\u201d <i>Timoria<\/i>, then is a retributive punishment to satisfy something in the person inflicting the suffering, who feels the offender must experience punishment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">But every time the gospel authors write about Jesus speaking of some type of punishment or reversal of fates either in this life or the next, they use the Greek phrase <i>aionion kolasis<\/i> for eternal punishment (see Matthew 25:46).<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><i>Aionion kolasis <\/i>was a known phrase among Hellenistic Jews, many of whom populated the region of Galilee where Jesus travelled and taught. Philo, a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher who was a contemporary of Jesus, wrote, <span class=\"s2\">\u201c<\/span>It is better not to promise than not to give prompt assistance, for no blame follows in the former case, but in the latter there is dissatisfaction from the weaker class, and a deep hatred and eternal [<i>aionion<\/i>] chastisement [<i>kolasis<\/i>] from such as are more powerful.\u201d (Philo, <i>Fragments<\/i>)<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Mounce\u2019s <i>Concise Greek English Dictionary of the New Testament<\/i> tells us that <i>aionion <\/i>is an indeterminate adjective, <span class=\"s2\">\u201c<\/span>indeterminate as to duration.\u201d Thayer<span class=\"s2\">\u2019<\/span>s <i>Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament<\/i> tells us <i>anionion<\/i> <span class=\"s2\">\u201c<\/span>gives prominence to the immeasurableness of eternity.\u201d In other words, it\u2019s not that it lasts forever, but that it takes forever for whatever this adjective is describing to accomplish its purpose. We have as much time as it takes, no matter how long that is.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">The meanings of the word <i>kolasis <\/i>are<i> <\/i>why this topic pricks my interest. We\u2019ll unpack why all of this matters, next.<\/p>\n<p>(Read <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/socialjesus\/2022\/09\/stories-that-shape-us-part3\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Part 2<\/a>)<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a retributive punishment to satisfy the person inflicting the suffering who feels the offender must experience 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