{"id":138,"date":"2014-03-14T08:39:19","date_gmt":"2014-03-14T13:39:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/splitthemoon\/?p=138"},"modified":"2014-03-14T09:15:29","modified_gmt":"2014-03-14T14:15:29","slug":"beware-the-fire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/splitthemoon\/2014\/03\/beware-the-fire\/","title":{"rendered":"Beware the Fire"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p><script type=\"mce-mce-text\/javascript\">\/\/ <![CDATA[\n(function(d, s, id) { var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = \"\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"; fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk'));\n\/\/ ]]><\/script><\/p>\n<div class=\"fb-post\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AbuEesaPersonal\/posts\/279354918894349\" data-width=\"466\">\n<div class=\"fb-xfbml-parse-ignore\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AbuEesaPersonal\/posts\/279354918894349\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Post<\/a> by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AbuEesaPersonal\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Abu Eesa<\/a>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Abu Eesa is on fire. \u00a0Why shouldn\u2019t he be? \u00a0After all, it pays to be in a position where you are tantamount to being untouchable. \u00a0Despite the overwhelming numbers of comments on his Facebook wall pleading for him to realize how deeply offensive and hurtful his words were, the hundreds of thousands of upset Tweets, the tens of thousands of shares of my previous post and many others, he stands firm. \u00a0He has weathered just fine a storm that began with many protests on his wall, his mocking rebuttals to them, and an escalation to demands that he be fired.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_150\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-150\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.30.48-AM.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-150\" title=\"Screenshot 2014-03-14 at 9.30.48 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.30.48-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"369\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-150\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A few of the hundreds of comments expressing offense and pain at his comments. Long before the #FireAbuEesa hashtag surfaced.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>He issued many apologies, over 450 private ones, and about half a dozen public ones. \u00a0But there doesn\u2019t seem to be satisfaction in us, his critics. Why is that? \u00a0How depraved are we that the sheer number of apologies is not satisfying us? \u00a0It may be because sincerity can be spotted with your eyes closed and insincerity stinks to high heaven. It may be because he never once retracted his statements, or admitted they were inappropriate. Saying you are sorry you offended someone is different than being sorry for what you said. \u00a0We learn these semantic games by the time we\u2019re teenagers. \u00a0I\u2019ve played that word game many times, I\u2019m married for God\u2019s sake. It may also be because every public apology included a disclaimer embedded in it, and excepting from the apology an enemy du jour (or du hour). \u00a0Sometimes it was feminists, sometimes feminazis, sometimes liberals, and finally, and most sadly, scholars who reprimanded him. \u00a0He always saved a special paragraph or two to call out a group that he was currently praying a certain demise for.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_140\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-140\" style=\"width: 594px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-8.52.06-AM.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-140 \" title=\"Screenshot 2014-03-14 at 8.52.06 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-8.52.06-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"594\" height=\"386\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-140\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">An apology for all, except the corrupt and the losers. Oh and feminists.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_143\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-143\" style=\"width: 589px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-8.59.09-AM.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-143 \" title=\"Screenshot 2014-03-14 at 8.59.09 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-8.59.09-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"589\" height=\"274\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-143\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This one is dedicated to his colleagues, other scholars that found him beyond bounds.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The point being in the end he stuck by his words, so we turned our attention to Al Maghrib, his employer and waited for something, anything. That something came in the form of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/almaghrib.org\/blog\/2014\/03\/13\/on-recent-remarks-of-an-instructor\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">this statement<\/a>\u00a0that said very little because to actually take a stand would mean a break in the old boys club, throwing one of their own under the bus, a crack in the circled wagons. \u00a0And it just wasn\u2019t worth it to them. \u00a0Why should it be? \u00a0Abu Eesa gained 5000 followers in the past two days. \u00a0That\u2019s how palatable and profitable being shockingly inappropriate can be.Abu Eesa is not going to get fired, and I fully expected that. \u00a0Losing your job because of such comments is what would happen in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2010\/07\/26\/fired-over-facebook-posts_n_659170.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">any other context in the Western world<\/a>, but Muslims can\u2019t differentiate between when to make 70 excuses for another person and when to demand a certain level of excellence in behavior and performance. \u00a0Its reflected in our communities, in our masjid Boards, in poorly run Islamic schools, in weak organizations, in failed advocacy, in our lack of real influence on greater society. \u00a0Give 70 excuses, and look the other way as your house burns down.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">So what are we left with, what am I left with, after three difficult days? I\u2019m left with hundreds of comments and messages, by both men and women, thanking me and sharing their grief at Abu Eesa\u2019s comments. \u00a0I\u2019m left with stories by strangers who felt compelled to share their accounts of domestic violence. \u00a0I\u2019m left with awe at the fruit of Abu Eesa\u2019s scholarship, comments by his students and followers, some of the ugliest comments I\u2019ve ever read. \u00a0A God-fearing person, a person not driven by his ego, would carefully examine the harvest of own hands. \u00a0But piety and arrogance can\u2019t share a bed. It\u2019s one or the other.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_145\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-145\" style=\"width: 637px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.06.59-AM.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-145 \" title=\"Screenshot 2014-03-14 at 9.06.59 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.06.59-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"637\" height=\"394\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-145\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A number of his followers have used the words \u201cbutthurt\u201d in comments. Is that British humor too? Because its kind of gross.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_146\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-146\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.09.58-AM.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-146 \" title=\"Screenshot 2014-03-14 at 9.09.58 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.09.58-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"596\" height=\"316\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-146\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I\u2019m sure the \u201choors\u201d are waiting eagerly for you too brother. Abu Eesa\u2019s young male followers reflecting their learning.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Most importantly I\u2019m left, and we are all left, with an immediate opening to many badly needed conversations. \u00a0This issue forced numerous scholars to speak up and speak out, compelled either by their conscience or their constituents. They fell on different sides of the issue, toed different lines, and the benefit in it for us mere mortals is we can now gauge where they stand in our own estimations. \u00a0As Imam Suhaib Webb said, the hadith is clear that the people must choose their imam, we are entitled to this. \u00a0These conversations have made it easier.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_162\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-162\" style=\"width: 475px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.53.04-AM1.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-162\" title=\"Screenshot 2014-03-14 at 9.53.04 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.53.04-AM1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"475\" height=\"225\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-162\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Our female scholars stepped up first.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" lang=\"en\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TheOmaRamo\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">@TheOmaRamo<\/a> Yes it is. Sound hadith stipulate that an Imam is chosen by his people.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Suhaib Webb (@ImamSuhaibWebb) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ImamSuhaibWebb\/statuses\/443788569287860224\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">March 12, 2014<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" lang=\"en\"><p>Scholars silence on this issue only reaffirms to a community that women\u2019s issues can be set aside as drama or not important.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Suhaib Webb (@ImamSuhaibWebb) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ImamSuhaibWebb\/statuses\/443778805476655104\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">March 12, 2014<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_147\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-147\" style=\"width: 438px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.18.21-AM.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-147\" title=\"Screenshot 2014-03-14 at 9.18.21 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.18.21-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"438\" height=\"498\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-147\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The critics of Abu Eesa being equated with sinners, those who would expel him from the faith. How? No clue.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>We have movement \u2013 people are talking, people are planning. Those in our communities who are always compelled to action feel no option but to move onward and upward. They can\u2019t look away from the proof in written form that will be forever preserved on the internet that institutional sexism, one that allows jokes at the expense of the dignity of women, is part and parcel of the Muslim experience. Not just the Muslim experience in Muslim majority countries, but everywhere. We have evidence, not just anecdotes. Abu Eesa may always be around, but so will his comments. His relevance is temporary though, we just got woken up with a slap to the face and our focus has broadened. <a href=\"http:\/\/dawudwalid.wordpress.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dawud Walid said it best<\/a>, our community\u2019s internal issues are now clear: racism, sexism, and sectarianism. All healing begins by first naming the illness. Abu Eesa was just a symptom.<\/p>\n<p>Most importantly we have a line, a firm line we drew between what is acceptable and what is unacceptable. \u00a0Will Abu Eesa be more careful in the future with his jokes, or will he anxiously await International Women\u2019s Day 2015 to regale his legions with more humorless humor? \u00a0I suppose he has no reason not to. \u00a0But we\u2019ll still be here too. \u00a0And as Muslims we\u2019ll still respond to the Prophet\u2019s (saw) call to stop injustice with hands when possible, with our tongues when possible, and in our hearts if nothing else is possible. Even though it may not seem like much, sometimes saying \u201cenough\u201d is enough.<\/p>\n<p>Join me now in wishing Abu Eesa and his family in welcoming their newest addition, a baby girl born this week. \u00a0I am certain Abu Eesa is grateful for the female doctors, nurses, and attendants that helped deliver this bundle of love, who not only took time away from baking, but could do their jobs better than they could drive. May Allah swt make her of the women of Jannah and cause her to be a source of rahma and respect in his heart for the rest of us. \u00a0May she be protected from all the ills and abuses he mentioned. May she teach him that addressing women respectfully and protecting their dignity is not a feminist or Western value, it is a Prophetic and Godly value. Ameen.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.21.46-AM.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-148\" title=\"Screenshot 2014-03-14 at 9.21.46 AM\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/400\/2014\/03\/Screenshot-2014-03-14-at-9.21.46-AM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"728\" height=\"259\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">*<em>To the hundreds of people who have reached out, thank you, may Allah swt bless and reward you. \u00a0To the #MuslimMaleAllies a special thank you for refusing to accommodate your brothers\u2019 sexism, to my husband thank you for being patient and kind (it\u2019s not easy being married to a DV survivor), and to the gentle soul, a community leader and icon, who reached out to me to assure that he and many others would always be at the defense of his sisters even if it meant physical defense, thank you Mu\u2019tasim. To the women who were left as rattled as me, for who black and blue memories surfaced, and whose days felt haunted by Abu Eesa\u2019s words, prayers and love. It\u2019s true that he knows not what he does. But this can serve as an excuse.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We have movement \u2013 people are talking, people are planning. Those in our communities who are always compelled to action feel no option but to move onward and upward. 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