{"id":18344,"date":"2015-03-05T10:42:23","date_gmt":"2015-03-05T15:42:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/?p=18344"},"modified":"2015-03-05T10:42:23","modified_gmt":"2015-03-05T15:42:23","slug":"can-catholics-stand-united","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2015\/03\/can-catholics-stand-united.html","title":{"rendered":"Can Catholics Stand United?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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I remember when I first converted to the Catholic faith an old Irish priest said, \u201cAhh, you\u2019ll find that the Catholic Church is just as divided as the Anglicans.\u201d<\/p>\n

I disagreed with him for a reason I\u2019ll come to later, but I certainly discovered that the Catholic Church was divided.<\/p>\n

In England, where I then was, the divide was papered over in the usual way the British have of pretending nothing is wrong.<\/p>\n

In the USA I found the divisions to be sharp and the walls between various tribes to be tall and impermeable.<\/p>\n

It is like there are two separate Catholic Churches in the USA which might be called \u201cThe Establishment\u201d and \u201cThe Loyal Opposition\u201d.<\/p>\n

I choose these terms carefully rather than \u201cconservative\u201d and \u201cprogressive\u201d or \u201ctraditionalist\u201d and \u201cmodernist\u201d. However, those other terms have their own uses.<\/p>\n

The two factions each have their own colleges and universities, their own publishing houses, their bloggers, their newspapers and their magazines. They have their own leaders, speakers, preachers and priests. They have their own episcopal heroes and villains. They each have their own set of priorities, agendas and liturgical styles.<\/p>\n

The old Irish priest seems right. If there are not as many divisions in the Catholic Church there is certainly a large basic one between \u201cThe Establishment\u201d and \u201cthe Loyal Opposition.\u201d<\/p>\n

If I were to paint a picture of the two sides with a broad brush I\u2019d say \u201cThe Establishment\u201d believe tradition is the anchor of the Catholic faith and the authority of the Church\u2013voiced by the Pope is the fixed rock on which they stand. They are strongly pro life which means they oppose abortion. They see traditional marriage as being the cause of human happiness not its enemy. They want their worship to be God centered not people centered and they want that worship, therefore to be beautiful, reverent and transcendent. They want to be faithful, good Catholics which requires self discipline, self sacrifice and service.<\/p>\n

The Loyal Opposition, on the other hand, feel that the voice of Catholic authority is first with, for and by the people of God and the Bishops and the Pope are rightly the servants of the people of God. Truth is consensual and shared rather than being imposed from above. They prefer the pastoral solution rather than the legalistic solution to difficult moral questions and they value individualism and the freedom to challenge church teaching where it seems harsh, hypocritical or downright unrealistic. Because their religion is more people centered they think service to the poor and vulnerable is the most important task of the church and that worship should be accessible, understandable with full participation of all God\u2019s people.<\/p>\n

In my opinion both sides are right in what they affirm and wrong in what they deny.<\/p>\n

An easy summary is to see that\u00a0the two sides emphasize the two great commandments to love God and love our neighbor.<\/p>\n

Why am I a member of \u201cThe Establishment\u201d rather than the Loyal Opposition?\u00a0Continue Reading<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

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