{"id":22655,"date":"2017-05-31T07:56:04","date_gmt":"2017-05-31T12:56:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/?p=22655"},"modified":"2017-05-31T07:56:04","modified_gmt":"2017-05-31T12:56:04","slug":"anglicans-catholics-meet-waffle-house","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2017\/05\/anglicans-catholics-meet-waffle-house.html","title":{"rendered":"Anglicans and Catholics Meet at Waffle House"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-22656\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/149\/2017\/05\/13139314925_83c76e555b_z-300x218.jpg\" alt=\"13139314925_83c76e555b_z\" width=\"300\" height=\"218\">The Catholic News Agency reports <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglicannews.org\/news\/2017\/05\/anglicans-and-roman-catholics-agree-statement-on-ecclesiology.aspx\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a> that the ARCIC (Anglican Roman Catholic International Commission) met in Germany to discuss ecclesiology.<\/p>\n<p>This is code for \u201clet\u2019s get together and talk about the dwindling number of things on which we agree.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Once again our heroes\u00a0have come up with an \u201cagreed statement\u201d. Unfortunately the article doesn\u2019t have much detail about the statement itself but there is a link to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglicancommunion.org\/media\/305352\/communiqu%C3%A9-from-the-meeting-of-arcic-iii-in-erfurt-2017.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">another document<\/a> which explains their modus operandi.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a snippet:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"page\" title=\"Page 2\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p>\u2026It examines common theological principles that Anglicans and Catholics share, and the differentiated structures, based on these principles, by which they make decisions. This method invites both traditions to repentance and conversion, by looking at what is underdeveloped or wounded in themselves. It is also predicated on the belief that in our dialogue partner we meet a community in which the Holy Spirit is alive and active. We can therefore ask firstly, where our communities are in need of reform, and, secondly, what we can learn from the our dialogue partner to help us in this growth. The Commission described this process as \u201creceptive learning\u201d.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"page\" title=\"Page 2\">\n<div class=\"layoutArea\">\n<div class=\"column\">\n<p>Excuse me while I yawn.<\/p>\n<p>I got used to this sort of waffle when I was in the Church of England. The theologians would scoot off to an all expenses paid junket to some locale on the continent where they would all talk earnestly about church unity while they\u00a0\u00a0tiptoed around the brontosaurus\u00a0\u00a0in the room.<\/p>\n<p>The particular dinosaurs I\u2019m thinking of are women\u2019s ordination, same sex marriage, abortion, divorce and remarriage, and doctrinal heterodoxy of all kinds.<\/p>\n<p>In ecumenical discussions these aspects of Anglicanism are treated rather like the crazy aunt you have chained in the attic. If you should happen to mention the subjects to liberal Catholics or Anglicans you will realize very quickly that you have committed an unpardonable social error. It\u2019s like you broke wind in Buckingham Palace.<\/p>\n<p>What happens to these \u201cagreements\u201d? If it is a formal document it is taken back to the Church of England General Synod where it is usually thrown out by the Evangelicals who are still deeply suspicious of Catholics, and by the Liberals who despise Catholicism even more. \u00a0The Anglo Catholics are a spent force\u2013the ones who cared about unity with the Catholic Church have all\u2014errm, become Catholics.<\/p>\n<p>As for the Catholics, most of them\u00a0have never heard of ARCIC.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, most Catholics have never heard of Anglicanism.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Is it a good thing for ARCIC to continue? Can these dry bones live?<\/p>\n<p>I think it should keep going. For all its faults, an open door is better than a closed one.<\/p>\n<p><em>Image Creative Commons via Bing<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Catholic News Agency reports here that the ARCIC (Anglican Roman Catholic International Commission) met in Germany to discuss ecclesiology. This is code for \u201clet\u2019s get together and talk about the dwindling number of things on which we agree.\u201d Once again our heroes\u00a0have come up with an \u201cagreed statement\u201d. 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