{"id":258,"date":"2011-12-14T16:57:00","date_gmt":"2011-12-14T16:57:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2011\/12\/john-of-the-cross-and-t-s-eliot\/"},"modified":"2014-12-26T12:03:47","modified_gmt":"2014-12-26T17:03:47","slug":"john-of-the-cross-and-t-s-eliot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2011\/12\/john-of-the-cross-and-t-s-eliot.html","title":{"rendered":"John of the Cross and T.S.Eliot"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p>Eliot was much influenced by John of the Cross. Here is a tribute and allusion to him from Eliot\u2019s <i>East Coker<\/i>:<br>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: #990000;\"><br>\n<\/span><br>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: #990000;\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">\u00a0 You say I am repeating<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">Something I have said before. I shall say it again.<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">Shall I say it again? In order to arrive there,<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">To arrive where you are, to get from where you are not,<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">\u00a0 \u00a0 You must go by a way wherein there is no ecstasy.<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">In order to arrive at what you do not know<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">\u00a0 \u00a0 You must go by a way which is the way of ignorance.<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">In order to possess what you do not possess<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">\u00a0 \u00a0 You must go by the way of dispossession.<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">In order to arrive at what you are not<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">\u00a0 \u00a0 You must go through the way in which you are not.<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">And what you do not know is the only thing you know<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">And what you own is what you do not own<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\">And where you are is where you are not.<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: #990000;\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: 'times new roman';\"><br>\n<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Do you read T.S.Eliot? You ought to.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: inherit;\">Especially his <i>Four Quartets.<\/i>\u00a0They are the most spiritual poems written in the twentieth century, and Eliot was, above all, a mystic. Don\u2019t let anybody tell you otherwise, and certainly don\u2019t be swayed by that crap about him being a misogynistic, anti-Semite. There\u2019s a smear campaign going on by the liberal intelligentsia because Eliot was un-apologetically Christian.<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: inherit;\"><br>\n<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span class=\"Apple-style-span\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-family: inherit;\">PS: It was T.S.Eliot who taught me the word \u2018inchoate\u2019.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eliot was much influenced by John of the Cross. Here is a tribute and allusion to him from Eliot\u2019s East Coker: \u00a0 You say I am repeating Something I have said before. I shall say it again. Shall I say it again? 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