{"id":2660,"date":"2008-05-14T09:51:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-14T09:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2008\/05\/incorruptible-so-what\/"},"modified":"2008-05-14T09:51:00","modified_gmt":"2008-05-14T09:51:00","slug":"incorruptible-so-what","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2008\/05\/incorruptible-so-what.html","title":{"rendered":"Incorruptible – So What?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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There is some low level fuss about the incorruptible (or not) state of the remains of Pope John XXIII and St Padre Pio. Roving Medievalist links <\/a>to the undertaker who was called in to preserve the remains of both Bl. John XXII and St.Pio\u2013pointing out that both of them are now embalmed, so the question of their remains being incorruptible is moot.\n

Those looking for a miracle will claim that the remains of Bl. John XXII were \u2018remarkably preserved\u2019 when the coffin was opened, and after forty years Padre Pio\u2019s body was also very well preserved despite the coffin being in damp ground and full of water. Skeptics point out that John XXIII\u2019s body was inside three coffins, and had been treated with a low level preservation technique to enable the body to lie in state at his death. They also point out that Padre Pio\u2019s face and head were not in very good condition. If he was going to be incorruptible, why wasn\u2019t he perfectly preserved?<\/p>\n

The whole question of incorruptiblility is fascinating. I have written on it twice: once for Fortean Times<\/em> magazine. You can find the link here<\/a>, and once for Catholic Answers<\/em> magazine. The definitive work is the classic The Incorruptibles<\/em> by Joan Caroll Cruz.<\/p>\n

There are a couple of observations I\u2019d like to make on the matter. First of all, incorruptiblity of saints\u2019 bodies is a known and recorded phenomenon. In fact, amongst paranormal phenomenon, it is one of the most well documented and objectively studied. It is true that a good number of the \u2018incorruptibles\u2019 can be shown to be the result of natural mummification or embalming. However, the most remarkable cases have no natural explanation. The modern examples of the Maronite monk, St Charbel Mahklouf, and St Bernadette are the most striking.<\/p>\n

This miracle does happen. However, it is also true (as with all miracles) that there is an element of unpredictability and (according to human reasoning) illogicality to it. So Charbel Mahklouf is incorrupt for many years and his relics exude healing oil, then after thirty or forty years he decays anyway. Or, why is St Bernadette incorrupt, but St Therese of Lisieux is not?<\/p><\/div>\n

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Also, there seem to be similar examples of incorruptibility from non-Christian religions, and some cases where the person in question did not obviously display the recognized signs of heroic sanctity. Therefore, the church does not really put much store in incorruptibility. It is not a guarantee of sanctity; neither is the lack of incorruptibility a sign of a person\u2019s sinfulness. Criteria for sainthood do not include this kind of miracle.\n

The Catholic Church takes a guarded and sensible view on all supernatural phenomena\u2013from incorruptible saints to images of Mother Teresa in bagels to charismatic \u2018healings\u2019 and claims that pentecostal<\/a> preachers raise people from the dead. The Catholic view never denies that miracles can happen. On the other hand, Catholics are right to be suitably skeptical\u2013looking for natural explanations first.<\/p>\n

We apply this common sense mix of skepticism and belief in the face of all miraculous phenomenon. When we are confronted with an allegedly incorruptible body of a saint we say, \u201cInteresting. Could be, but I doubt it. Let\u2019s look a bit closer.\u201d Likewise, when a Pentecostal preacher says, \u201cWe\u2019ve been to Africa and we\u2019ve cured people of AIDS, raised the dead, made the lame walk and the blind to see\u201d we say, \u201cCould be, but I doubt it. Let\u2019s look a bit closer.\u201d If there\u2019s a natural explanation we accept that first. If there is an inexplicable phenomenon we say, \u201cThat\u2019s inexplicable.\u201d Did God do it? Maybe, but there also be some other psychic, spiritual or psychological explanation. However, if definite fruits of sanctity, repentance and genuine conversion of Christ are evident we thank God for that, and give God the glory.<\/p>\n

Finally, what are we to make of the fact that Padre Pio\u2019s relics have been embalmed, a wax mask put over his face and the relics put on display for the veneration of the faithful? Well, let\u2019s cut through a few of the false ideas being suggested: this has not been done as some sort of Catholic fraud. Nobody is saying Padre Pio is an incorruptible. The veneration of relics goes back to the most ancient era of the church.<\/p>\n

This is something Catholics do and always have done. Those in charge are simply making Padre Pio\u2019s relics as presentable as possible for the veneration of the faithful. Sometimes they do this by putting the relics in a reliquary\u2013a carving that looks like the saint. Sometimes they put the relics in an ornate reliquary or urn. Sometimes they display the skeleton all dressed up. Sometimes they put the mummified remains in clothing and put it on display. In this case, they\u2019ve chosen to present his relics as a mix between a mummified corpse and a figure from a wax museum.<\/p><\/div>\n

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The particulars of how relics are displayed don\u2019t really matter any more than the frame you choose for a picture. What matters is that Catholics believe in the incarnation. We believe that by virtue of the incarnation, the body and soul are linked, and that the salvation won by Christ actually affects our physical bodies as well as our eternal souls. To put it simply, our bodies are redeemed too, and they will be transformed too. Relics of saints are a visible witness to this belief. The mortal remains of a saint are touched by the transformative grace of Christ, and their mortal remains carry a little whiff of that sanctity, and remain a connecting point with heaven. Their relics are little bits of their holiness left behind in this physical realm.\n

Atheists, Protestants and liberal Catholics may turn up their nose in distaste. They may sneer at Catholic superstition and dismiss our \u2018crude, peasant spirituality\u2019. They may make lofty theological arguments if they wish. They may mock and laugh, but they are like the boor who goes to the opera and makes fun of the fat lady singing.<\/p>\n

If you listen carefully you will hear the squelching sound of pearls being trampled into the mud. <\/p><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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