{"id":436,"date":"2011-10-13T19:21:00","date_gmt":"2011-10-13T19:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2011\/10\/what-happened-at-fatima\/"},"modified":"2011-10-13T19:21:00","modified_gmt":"2011-10-13T19:21:00","slug":"what-happened-at-fatima","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2011\/10\/what-happened-at-fatima.html","title":{"rendered":"What Happened at Fatima?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-wBNNQMVD4zo\/TpdydK2yYqI\/AAAAAAAAGA4\/fUD028A9EjM\/s1600\/fatimachildren.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"224\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-wBNNQMVD4zo\/TpdydK2yYqI\/AAAAAAAAGA4\/fUD028A9EjM\/s320\/fatimachildren.jpg\" width=\"320\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Richard Dawkins loves to make fun of miracles, and one of the favorite objects of his mockery is the miracle of the sun at Fatima. He snorts in derision, (and I paraphrase) \u201cObviously the sun did not dance and plunge to the earth. We know the sun is billions of times bigger than the earth. If the sun plunged to the earth there would be no earth. Clearly there was no miracle of the sun at Fatima\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Or here\u2019s how another atheist puts it: \u201cIt\u00a0is not easy to explain how 70,000 people could share the same hallucination. But it is even harder to accept that it really happened without the rest of the world, outside Fatima, seeing it too \u2014 and not just seeing it, but feeling it as the catastrophic destruction of the solar system, including acceleration forces sufficient to hurl everybody into space. David Hume\u2019s pithy test for a miracle comes irresistibly to mind: \u201cNo testimony is sufficient to establish a miracle, unless the testimony be of such a kind, that its falsehood would be more miraculous than the fact which it endeavours to establish.\u201d It may seem improbable that 70,000 people could simultaneously be deluded, or could simultaneously collude in a mass lie. Or that history is mistaken in recording that 70,000 people claimed to see the sun dance. Or that they all simultaneously saw a mirage (they had been persuaded to stare at the sun, which can\u2019t have done much for their eyesight). But any of those apparent improbabilities is far more probable than the alternative: that the Earth was suddenly yanked sideways in its orbit, and the solar system destroyed, with nobody outside Fatima noticing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is typical of the stupid literalistic \u2018reasoning\u2019 of the atheists. Errm, those of us who believe in the miracle of the sun also know that the sun is much bigger than the earth. We also know that if the sun were really spinning that everyone on earth should be able to see it. We also know that if the sun plunged to earth the earth would be toast. Yet we believe in the miracle of the sun.<\/p>\n<p>So we clearly believe that something else happened other than the literal event of the sun being yanked from the sky and plunging to earth. What a shame the smug atheists didn\u2019t stop to ask whether we had though these things through or not? Unlike the scientist atheists (who are supposed to examine phenomena objectively) we examine the phenomena objectively. Here we have documentary and eyewitness and photographic evidence that 70,000 people \u2018saw\u2019 the sun spin, felt it was yanked from the sky and that it plunged to earth. Everyone said they saw the same thing. Everyone was so frightened they screamed and ran for their lives. Clearly something happened, what was it?<\/p>\n<p>We can rule out any literal explanation. The sun didn\u2019t fall to the earth. But 70,000 people saw it fall to the earth. The miracle therefore occurred somewhere within the process of perception. We see with our eyes, but what do we see? Whatever we see is transferred to the brain and the brain interprets what we see. It is well known that if we do not have the mental capacity to \u2018see\u2019 certain things they are invisible to us. Likewise we may \u2018see\u2019 certain things, and without the capacity or mental vocabulary to process what we have seen they will remain a mystery to us, or we will process what we see in terms of what we know. The mind makes sense of what we see, and tries to interpret it the best it can.<\/p>\n<p>So the miracle of the sun at Fatima was a miracle that occurred within the minds of 70,000 witnesses. Does this mean \u201cIt was only in their mind?\u201d or that \u201cThey had merely imagined it\u201d? No. They really did see the sun spinning, being yanked from the sky and plunging to earth, but the way they \u2018saw\u2019 it was with some other capability than the usual kind of \u2018seeing\u2019. They \u2018saw\u2019 something in the same way that the visionaries \u2018see\u2019 the Blessed Virgin who is not there in a normally physical way.<\/p>\n<p>Some skeptics may wish, therefore, to dismiss the miracle and say it was merely some sort of psychic phenomena for which we do not yet have an explanation. Fair enough, but that is what believers usually call a \u2018miracle.\u2019<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Richard Dawkins loves to make fun of miracles, and one of the favorite objects of his mockery is the miracle of the sun at Fatima. He snorts in derision, (and I paraphrase) \u201cObviously the sun did not dance and plunge to the earth. 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