{"id":923,"date":"2010-10-20T22:48:00","date_gmt":"2010-10-20T22:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2010\/10\/the-bottom-line\/"},"modified":"2010-10-20T22:48:00","modified_gmt":"2010-10-20T22:48:00","slug":"the-bottom-line","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/standingonmyhead\/2010\/10\/the-bottom-line.html","title":{"rendered":"The Bottom Line"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_5BV_YADVD7o\/TL-pDxr2qTI\/AAAAAAAAE7g\/4q8s3UJF1iE\/s1600\/lateran+benedict.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"320\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_5BV_YADVD7o\/TL-pDxr2qTI\/AAAAAAAAE7g\/4q8s3UJF1iE\/s320\/lateran+benedict.jpg\" width=\"224\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>From time to time I receive an email from a Protestant Christian who is trying to pick a fight with me about this that or the other. Maybe it\u2019s papal infallibility or their idea that Catholics believe in salvation by works, or maybe it\u2019s lighting candles or \u2018worship\u2019 of Mary, or maybe it\u2019s indulgences or the Inquisition or some other old chestnut.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s my stock response: \u201cThank you for your question. I\u2019m afraid I don\u2019t engage in debate with non-Catholics because I find it unfruitful. However, if you would genuinely like to learn more about Catholicism and have open and honest questions I\u2019d be delighted to do my best to answer them. However, there is one topic I am willing to discuss, and it is my question to you: \u2018Why should your version of Christianity be the right one and the other thousands be wrong?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is the authority question. Where do we turn for the answers? The Protestant will say, \u201cTo the Bible.\u201d But this begs the question. We then have to ask, \u201cBut which interpretation of the Bible?\u201d The tens of thousands of Protestant Christian groups and millions of Protestant Christian individuals all say, \u201cTo the Bible!\u201d yet they all disagree. So how can that simple and noble answer be correct? Others will cry out, \u201cBut if you simply read the Bible and pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit the clear and simple word of the gospel will be made abundantly clear to you!\u201d Alas, that is what all the other tens of thousands of groups and millions of individuals say, and what they really mean by this is, \u201cThe Holy Spirit will reveal to you that I and my group are right and the others are wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Others will resort to individualistic sentimentality. \u201cYou will know in your heart a great and sudden peace!\u201d or \u201cYou will have a great joy when you come to finally understand the truth!\u201d How wonderful to have a positive and glowing religious experience, but alas, such things are easily counterfeited not only\u00a0 by self-deceiving wishful thinking, but also by religious charlatans, well meaning religious preachers who sincerely believe the religious experience they are manipulating people into is genuine, and also various forms of synthetic emotion producing chemicals, and when all is said and done the bottom line question still remains, \u201cAnd how do you know that the emotion you have experienced is a valid emotion and the peace or the joy or the certainty you know in your heart, while powerful and convincing is not fraudulent in some way?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Linked with this is a similar response: that is a certain and confident \u2018inner knowledge\u2019. \u201cI just know that this is right, and I can\u2019t explain it!\u201d cries the enthusiastic believer. While such experiential knowledge is admirable the question still remains, \u201cYes, but how do you know that your feelings of certainty are based on anything other than wishful thinking or a fleeting emotion or the suggestion of that feeling by a teacher or preacher? Indeed this is a favorite tactic of Mormon missionaries. They say, \u201cJust read the Book of Mormon, and before you do pray to the Holy Spirit and ask him to reveal to you the truth of what your read.\u201d Then, hey bingo! Lot\u2019s of people say, \u201cIts true! I just prayed to the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth of what I read and suddenly my eyes were opened and I understood that it was all true!!\u201d Hogwash.<\/p>\n<p>Finally there is the response which makes appeal to the simple words and concepts of the gospel. \u201cSurely we can leave on one side all these complicated and divisive questions. Isn\u2019t the main thing that we all try to love one another and love Jesus the best we can? Isn\u2019t that really what the simple gospel of the simple carpenter from Nazareth would have wanted?\u201d These are noble and beautiful sentiments, but again they beg the question and evade the difficulties. Apart from the objection that this reduces Christianity to being nice and good, one needs to insist on the necessity of the ultimate question and say, \u201cYes, but how do you know that you are actually loving Jesus, and not your own fictional version of what you want Jesus to be? How do you know you are not worshiping a Jesus made in your own image? You must have some sort of belief or dogma as well as your good life or how is your life to be distinguished as Christian, and if you have some belief then how do you know it is the one which will lead to your souls salvation?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is the bottom line question between Catholics and Protestants, and it is the question that I have never once had even the beginning of a satisfactory answer from a non Catholic. 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