{"id":349,"date":"2013-08-28T10:53:48","date_gmt":"2013-08-28T15:53:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/teachingnonviolentatonement\/?p=349"},"modified":"2013-08-28T10:53:48","modified_gmt":"2013-08-28T15:53:48","slug":"the-nonviolent-atonement-brian-mclaren-and-james-alison-on-violence-god-and-mimetic-theory","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/teachingnonviolentatonement\/2013\/08\/the-nonviolent-atonement-brian-mclaren-and-james-alison-on-violence-god-and-mimetic-theory\/","title":{"rendered":"The Nonviolent Atonement: Brian McLaren and James Alison on Violence, God, and Mimetic Theory"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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Brian McLaren and James Alison
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I\u2019ve been excited to tell you this ever since July\u2026The much anticipated conversation between\u00a0Brian McLaren<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0James Alison<\/a>\u00a0has been posted! You can listen to the podcast over at\u00a0Homebrewed Christianity by clicking here<\/a>. I first need to point out that this recording never would have happened without Tripp Fuller and Bo Sanders of\u00a0Homebrewed Christianity<\/a>. At the last minute we were scrambling to find a way to record the live Internet broadcast of the discussion. Brian called up his friend Tripp who graciously dropped what he was doing to record the conversation from his home-base. And so Brian, James, Raven, and the\u00a0Colloquium on Violence and Religion<\/a>\u00a0(COV&R) are all extremely grateful to Tripp for recording the conversation and to Bo for editing it and introducing it in the podcast. A\u00a0transcript<\/a> of this conversation is now available.<\/p>\n

The conversation took place at the aforementioned COV&R conference held at\u00a0Northern Iowa University<\/a>\u00a0back in July. Just for clarification, in his introduction Bo mistakenly states that it took place at the\u00a0Wild Goose Festival<\/a>. This is an understandable mistake. James and Brian both attended Wild Goose, so it could have happened there, but it actually took place at COV&R.<\/p>\n

Here are some observations about the conversation that I\u2019d like to make:<\/p>\n

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  1. James Alison is awesome.<\/li>\n
  2. Brian McLaren is awesome.<\/li>\n
  3. James Alison + Brian McLaren = A boatload of awesomeness.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    I know. I know.<\/em>\u00a0Those three points are highly technical and difficult to understand, but, alas, I can\u2019t think of a better way to describe this conversation. I downloaded the podcast yesterday and have listened to it twice. There are some minor problems with the audio that go away pretty quickly, so don\u2019t let them distract you from this amazing conversation about the impact mimetic theory has on transforming our understanding of God, the Bible, and the Atonement from violence to nonviolence. One of the most important things I heard from Brian is that:<\/p>\n

    \u2026 the work of mimetic theory, and the work of people like you all in this room, I think is profoundly important because there are not many ways out of the violence in the Bible. I\u2019m not aware of any ways out of it that solves any of the problems that mimetic theory does.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    One of the most important things I heard from James about the Atonement is:<\/p>\n

    If, in the objective model, Jesus did something like an offstage, backroom deal with the Father of some sort in order to pay for our sins and then left us with morals, then we really are stuck\u2026I think it\u2019s probably better to be atheist than it is to be stuck with those gods. The real question is, \u201cHow might it be possible to imagine Jesus going up to his death as being quite simply an act of generosity from God who knows no violence toward us at all? What is the shape of that self-giving toward us in our violence?<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    Those are the important questions you will hear James, Brian, and participants at the COV&R conference discuss in this podcast. So,\u00a0click here to listen to the conversation at Homebrewed Christianity<\/a>, then pull up a chair, grab some coffee, and enjoy the discussion between two of the most important thinkers bringing mimetic theory and a nonviolent understanding of the Atonement together. A transcript<\/a> of this conversation is now available.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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