{"id":679,"date":"2005-04-18T16:44:58","date_gmt":"2005-04-18T20:44:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/theanchoressonline.com\/2005\/04\/18\/jaw-droppingly-stupid-and-offensive\/"},"modified":"2015-03-13T20:47:37","modified_gmt":"2015-03-13T20:47:37","slug":"jaw-droppingly-stupid-and-offensive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/theanchoress\/2005\/04\/18\/jaw-droppingly-stupid-and-offensive\/","title":{"rendered":"Jaw-droppingly stupid and offensive"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Dana over at <a href=\"http:\/\/northshorepolitics.blogspot.com\/2005\/04\/i-cant-believe-what-i-heard.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">North Shore Politics<\/a> writes \u201calthough I am not even a practicing Catholic, I was offended by it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>By what?  This statement made this morning on ABC news:<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>What our viewers will notice is that, among these 115 cardinals, who are wearing what looks like women\u2019s garb, that there are no women. That is something the next pope is going to have to address.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Says Dana:<em> I was disgusted by that. How disrespectful for one (thing) and pompous for another<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I thought it was a stupid, thoughtless, biased, agendized and clumsy thing to say, myself.<\/p>\n<p>Just to check, because I know sometimes I can be prickly and take offense where none exists, I sent the ABC blurb to my slightly left-of-center, very devout brother Thom, and his response was succinct: <em>How astoundingly offensive.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Hmmm\u2026seems the vote in unanimous.<\/p>\n<p>Dana sees a connection between this morning\u2019s remark and this, from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediaresearch.org\/cyberalerts\/2005\/cyb20050418.asp#1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sunday night<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><em>The night before the Catholic Cardinals were to begin their conclave to choose a new Pope, the U.S. broadcast network evening newscasts painted the role of women as the most important issue and gave a platform to left-wing church activist Joan Chittister. \u201cThe future of the church is now in the hands of 115 men. Some Catholic women find that offensive,\u201d ABC\u2019s David Wright asserted Sunday night in leading into a Chittister soundbite. Wright proceeded to showcase a woman upset that her unborn daughter cannot become a priest, before concluding: \u201cMen and women may be equal in the eyes of God, but many Catholics say in the eyes of the church, there\u2019s still a long way to go.\u201d Wright gave a soundbite to a church defender, but not CBS\u2019s John Roberts who sandwiched two denunciation from Chittister around touting how \u201ca new CBS News poll finds the majority of Catholics think the next Pope should admit women into the priesthood, let priests marry, and allow birth control.\u201d Plus, \u201c52 percent of American Catholics think the church is out of touch.\u201d<\/em><br>\nSr. Joan Chittister has a lot of good things to say on prayer and the practice of monasticism, but she sounds very silly here.<\/p>\n<p>I wonder about those polls.  Somehow I figure they\u2019ve polled the Upper West Side and pushed the questions.  I wonder what sort of response they\u2019d get if they polled, say, Nebraska.  Or St. Louis.  Or Denver.<\/p>\n<p>Sr. Joan Chittister, who has been all over the television spouting off her opinion also said <a class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>: \u201d (if women are not allowed ordination) \u2026we\u2019re going to lose an entire generation of young women and we\u2019re going to lose them quickly.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Oh, sister, what HOGWASH!  Seems to me the Church of England ordained women and STILL lost at least an entire generation of \u201cyoung women\u201d AND \u201cyoung men\u201d (is it worse to lose the women than the men?).  That so-very-progressive Church will cease to exist in twenty years, but by all means, let\u2019s jump on board the careening train as it jumps the rails.<\/p>\n<p>All of these folks who are insisting that \u201cthe church must change and get with the times\u201d are quite simply full of it.  Those churches which have decided to live the age throughout the faith are falthering and flaming out \u2013 they lost all credibility when they decided that everything they preached for 2000 years didn\u2019t really matter, after all.  Female ordination has fixed nothing.<\/p>\n<p>As I have said <a href=\"http:\/\/theanchoressonline.com\/2005\/04\/03\/john-paul-ii-and-women\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">over and over<\/a>  (check out the feminism catagory) there are tons of opportunities for legitimate <a href=\"http:\/\/theanchoressonline.com\/2005\/04\/15\/more-debunking-of-the-jpii-held-back-women-myth\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">ministry<\/a> for women in the church.  Women\u2019s voices have <a href=\"http:\/\/theanchoressonline.com\/2005\/03\/14\/prod-mary\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">carried and supported<\/a> and healed the church throughout the ages.  No one is being oppressed, unless they want to think they are.  And ordination is not the be-all-and-end-all, and it is not empowering.  It\u2019s supposed to be about <a href=\"http:\/\/theanchoressonline.com\/2004\/12\/26\/it-starts-not-with-a-give-me-but-with-a-please-take\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">service and self-abnegation<\/a>, not self-actualization.<\/p>\n<p>I am frankly so tired of hearing from atheists, agnostics, non-catholics and catholic \u201cprogressives\u201d what the church \u201cNEEDS to do,\u201d or \u201cMUST do\u201d in order to become legitimate in their eyes.  As my brother Thom says, <em>scroom.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What the press is not telling you \u2013 will not cover \u2013 is that there is a true springtime occuring within the church, that for all of the hand-wringing about vocations, the numbers are up across the board, for female religious, male religious and priests.  Worldwide, there are more seminarians studying for the priesthood today than in 1961.  That doesn\u2019t mean there isn\u2019t a shortage \u2013 there is \u2013 the church has continued to grow, even during the past three decades of turbulence and lost vocations.  But things are changing.  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/0829416455\/qid=1113867201\/sr=8-1\/ref=pd_csp_1\/103-5888339-2124668?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Young adults are embracing orthodoxy<\/a> and moving away from the tired, baby-boomer, it\u2019s all about US, the laity rhetoric and daring to be truly revolutionary in proclaiming that IT\u2019S ALL ABOUT CHRIST, not us.<\/p>\n<p>There is nothing more radical and counter-cultural, particularly today, than a committed Christian willing to live in opposition to the times and mores.<\/p>\n<p>The greying, one-noted boomers still think they are fighting the establishment.  They don\u2019t understand that they have BECOME the establishment, and they are being examined and found wanting.<\/p>\n<p>One last remark by Sr. Joan:  <em>\u201cWe can\u2019t say that we have answers from the 13th century, the 16th century, that can be applied now. We have to bring all of the people of the church into the discussion of these issues, or the church itself will be totally ineffective.\u201d <\/em><\/p>\n<p>With all due respect to the sister, God \u2013 and Faith and Truth \u2013 are outside of time.  Fashion and cultural norms aside, the whole point of the Christ being ETERNAL, is that He is the same, yesterday and today, and tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>I can hear someone out there saying, \u201cwell, what about the meat-on-Friday\u2019s routine!  It used to be a sin to eat meat on Friday, and now it\u2019s not.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>No. Actually, it was never \u201ca sin\u201d to eat meat on Friday.  Here\u2019s the truth: it has long been a discipline of the church to make a sacrifice on each Friday \u2013 the day of the week when Christ died \u2013 in reparation and also in order to be mindful, to be made mindful once more, that Christ died for us \u2013 (so that on Sunday we can be mindful, once more, that he Rose).  For several reasons it became common for Catholics to give up meat on that day \u2013 remember meat used to be a big deal for people, a luxury, and a means of \u201ctreating themselves.\u201d  So, giving up meat might be considered an especially big sacrifice.<\/p>\n<p>The Second Vatican council simply instructed Catholics to feel free in choosing their own sacrifice of remembrance on Friday.  It could be walking or riding a bike instead of driving.  It could be eating only bread and water for breakfast and lunch, or fasting, or turning off the tv, or reading an extra psalm\u2026just something, some action by which one put themselves, once again, into a mindfulness of Christ\u2019s gift to us.<\/p>\n<p>Typically, as with pretty much everything else, what came out of the VCII was poorly taught by Rome and the progressives, who also ignored the council\u2019s suggestion that new music be \u201cintermingled\u201d with the old, rather than the old simply thrown out, shouted: YOU CAN EAT MEAT ON FRIDAY, without telling the rest of it.<\/p>\n<p>The fact is, nothing the church has put out there is mindless or useless \u2013 but so very much of it has been taught so badly, and it\u2019s been badly taught for a long time.  I\u2019ve always said the Catholic church is its own worst enemy in that respect.<\/p>\n<p>A little self-denial at the end of the week, in preparation for the Saturday evening to Sunday evening sabbath, is not a terrible thing.<\/p>\n<p>And neither is an all-male priesthood.<\/p>\n<p>Extra thought:  Interestingly, Chittister has said repeatedly that she, herself, does not feel called to ordination, but she\u2019s concerned for all of those women who DO feel called.<\/p>\n<p>Although, now that I think of it ,  I know a lot of Catholic women, from all sides of the spectrum, and I\u2019ve never heard ONE of them say they felt \u201ccalled.\u201d<\/p>\n<p> I\u2019ve heard them say they <em>should<\/em> be able to be ordained.  I\u2019ve heard them rant about what they <em>want<\/em>.  But I have never actually heard a Catholic woman say she feels <em>called<\/em>.  A <em>calling<\/em> and a <em>craving<\/em> are two different things.<\/p>\n<p>To my way of thinking, if what you are experiencing is bringing negativity into your heart, it\u2019s probably more of a craving than a calling, and a craving can originate from anywhere, including from the evil.<\/p>\n<p>A calling from Christ cannot create anger, hate, distrust or negativity within you.  There are no negatives in Jesus.  What was it St. Benedict wrote in the prologue of his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/037570017X\/qid%3D1113866253\/sr%3D11-1\/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1\/103-5888339-2124668\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Rule<\/a>, <em>What, dear brothers, is more delightful than this voice of the Lord calling to us?  See how the Lord in his love shows us the way of life.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dana over at North Shore Politics writes \u201calthough I am not even a practicing Catholic, I was offended by it.\u201d By what? This statement made this morning on ABC news: What our viewers will notice is that, among these 115 cardinals, who are wearing what looks like women\u2019s garb, that there are no women. 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