{"id":2867,"date":"2015-08-05T09:12:35","date_gmt":"2015-08-05T14:12:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/theatheistrabbi\/?p=2867"},"modified":"2015-08-05T09:12:35","modified_gmt":"2015-08-05T14:12:35","slug":"murderous-jewish-religious-fanaticism-part-two","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/theatheistrabbi\/2015\/08\/murderous-jewish-religious-fanaticism-part-two.html","title":{"rendered":"Murderous Jewish Religious Fanaticism, Part Two"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"getty embed image\" style=\"background-color:#fff;display:inline-block;font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;color:#a7a7a7;font-size:11px;width:100%;max-width:297px;\">\n<div style=\"overflow:hidden;position:relative;height:0;padding:66.666667% 0 0 0;width:100%;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/embed.gettyimages.com\/embed\/482498252?et=lAsRS12DSeZ5KTUeL0TXeg&amp;viewMoreLink=on&amp;sig=l_MkOYB-IhTHuK24rn1JTTLYjqOyhcritJwVtK1n7C8=\" width=\"297\" height=\"198\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"display:inline-block;position:absolute;top:0;left:0;width:100%;height:100%;\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p style=\"margin:0;\">\n<\/p><div style=\"padding:0;margin:0 0 0 10px;text-align:left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.gettyimages.com\/detail\/482498252\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#a7a7a7;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal !important;border:none;display:inline-block;\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">View image<\/a> | <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gettyimages.com\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color:#a7a7a7;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal !important;border:none;display:inline-block;\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">gettyimages.com<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Before I take a short vacation hiatus from the blog and my congregation, here is part two of my look at last week\u2019s murderous religious Jewish fanaticism.<\/p>\n<p>This time we are looking at the Haredi variety. It is not necessarily ultra-nationalist, but it is increasingly extremist in most other ways. (Honestly, I don\u2019t even know if it\u2019s worth saying \u201cincreasingly\u201d any more. I think it\u2019s increased to just about the maximum.)<\/p>\n<p>By now, what happened at the Jerusalem Gay Pride Parade has been widely publicized. Yishai Schlissel, who was only recently released from serving ten years in an Israeli prison for stabbing marchers at the 2005 parade, attacked six people at this year\u2019s march. On Sunday 16-year-old Shira Banki died of her wounds.<\/p>\n<p>Schlissel, whose wild-eyed, long-bearded visage should not fool anyone into cries of \u201cmentally ill!\u201d is a product of the religious fanaticism that surrounds him. In the weeks leading up to the parade, the Haredi streets of Jerusalem were filled with outraged wall posters denouncing the parade and gay people in general in the harshest terms possible.<\/p>\n<p>And in the English-speaking Haredi world, they reported on the event with their usual sensitivity.<\/p>\n<p>As the story was coming to light,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theyeshivaworld.com\/news\/headlines-breaking-stories\/330776\/breaking-charedi-man-stabs-6-in-jerusalem-toeiva-parade.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"> the Yeshiva World News website reported it this way: \u201cBREAKING: Charedi Man Stabs 6 in Jerusalem Toeiva Parade.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cToeiva\u201d is the Hebrew word for \u201cabomination.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Yes, you read that correctly. In the wake of this attack, the Haredi English-language press chose that word for the headline.<\/p>\n<p>This is the environment that gives rise to a knife-wielding Schlissel.<\/p>\n<p>In fairness, some of the story\u2019s commenters were very angry at Schlissel. A couple \u2013 and we can assume that these are not necessarily Haredim \u2013 took issue with the language:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Can you please change the name of the title of your story. It is insensitive to the families of the victims. Please change to simply say \u201cparade\u201d or \u201cgay parade\u201d (since you feel free to mention it in the body of the article).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But most of the replies were along these lines:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Its called Toeva because the Torah calls it toeva. I fail to understand why a frum Jew especially one who calls himself TORAHJew would to object to a term the TORAH uses.<\/p>\n<p>These toeivahs have no right to parade in Yerushalayim [Jerusalem]. They should send each and every one of the sick individuals to an Arab country or Russia to have their parades or better yet, for their own protection, lock them up in a mental institution. These are sick, sick, mental cases and they should be kept out of Yerushalayim.<\/p>\n<p>what\u2019s wrong with you people who deem it inappropriate to call it a toeiva parade? That\u2019s what it is.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s amazing there are actually Jews in this forum who object to calling the gay parade a \u201cToeiva\u201d parade. The Torah itself calls their actions \u201cToeiva\u201d. This man is definitely a Rasha and probably insane but please, don\u2019t apologize for the Torah!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There were a few commenters that said Schlissel had committed a \u201cchilul hashem \u2013 a desecration of God\u201d with his attack. But others saw him as a new Pinchas. That\u2019s the heroic biblical priest (Phineas in English) who ran a spear through an Israelite and Midianite in mid-coitus. You can find that gem of biblical morality in Number 25:1-15.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It\u2019s likely the guy was not mentaly stable but anyone who can roundly condemn the act he did lacks a torah true heart. I never understood how the Jews all condemned Pinchas necessitating a proclamation from hashem [God] but now I see that our generation is no different.Only a soul that is cruelly indiferent to the travesty that took place in yerushalayim Ihr Hakodesh [Jerusalem the holy city] with the parade could so smugly condemn his actions today. Those whose souls are pained by the parade have a vastly different reaction. please stop a moment and think- in which camp do you find yourself. sobering thought.<\/p>\n<p>Just wondering, do you think Pinchas also made a \u201cchilul hashem\u201d?. I think the US has made us too tolerant of the sodomites.<\/p>\n<p>on him [Pinchas] it says in the pasuk [verse] we read a few weeks back \u201cLochain Emor Hinneni Nosein Lo Es Brisi Sholom\u201d [\u201cWherefore say: Behold, I give unto him My covenant of peace\u201d] Halacha Kanayim Poigin Bo [the Jewish law of \u201ca zealous one may slay him\u201d] How can anyone disagree and condemn even if they wouldn\u2019t have the courage?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In case you didn\u2019t follow that last remark, the commenter is commending Schlissel for his courage. He did what Pinchas did and Jewish law assents.<\/p>\n<p>There were, of course, many dissenters. But the tone\u00a0of this site, from the headline to the comments, provides a good indication of the way that Haredi Jews are raised to feel about homosexuality. And keep in mind that Haredim on the internet are already among the least sheltered. The vast majority don\u2019t go near it (or so they claim).<\/p>\n<p>Since this happened, I\u2019ve heard some secular people claim that we should respect the deeply-held religious ideology of these Haredi religious fanatics. Really? Must we respect bad ideas simply because they are attributed to God?<\/p>\n<p>Well I don\u2019t believe in God. I don\u2019t believe that the idea of God contributes anything to the world that people couldn\u2019t come up with in better ways and on their own. My liberal religious friends keep trying to tell me that this is just misapplied religion. I\u2019m not buying it. It seems to me that they\u2019re applying in exactly the way that they intend.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>View image | gettyimages.com Before I take a short vacation hiatus from the blog and my congregation, here is part two of my look at last week\u2019s murderous religious Jewish fanaticism. This time we are looking at the Haredi variety. 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