Atheist ad campaign success: thousands ditch Danish church

Atheist ad campaign success: thousands ditch Danish church April 11, 2016

First came an bus ad campaign launched  by Denmark’s Atheist Society – Ateistisk Selskab– with the slogans ‘Why believe in a god’ and ‘Why does faith cost money – think for yourself’.
But a third slogan, “Did Jesus and Mohammad actually talk to a god?” was rejected by the bus company Movia.
This was followed by a nationwide campaign that urged people to stop giving money to churches.

The result, according to this report, was startling. Almost 3,000 baptised Danes cancelled their church membership.
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The Evangelical Lutheran Church of Denmark is among several churches in Europe subsidised by a Church tax. Although the tax is voluntary in Denmark, at a rate of around one per cent, church members are automatically signed up and have to opt out rather than opt in.
Almost eight in 10 Danish people are members of the Church of Denmark, known as “the People’s Church”. The Church is both Protestant and episcopally-led. Everyone who is baptised automatically becomes a member. Just 2.4 per cent of members attend every week.
The monarch is supreme authority of the church and has to be a member, although not the monarch’s spouse. However, Mary Donaldson converted from Presbyterianism when she married Crown Prince Frederik in 2004.
Atheist Society spokesman Anders Stjernholm said:

We are very pleased with the preliminary results. While our bus campaign calls for a broad debate about the foundations of faith, the withdrawal campaign targets the many Danes who have long considered leaving folkekirken, but have been putting it off because the process is too cumbersome.

One vicar, Lena Kjems, who lost 14 members, said:

We can see that in most cases these are young men aged 18-25, and so we, as a city parish with many students, have been hit especially hard.

Stephen Evans of the UK’s National Secular Society:

It’s not at all surprising that Danish citizens are cancelling their church membership. Nobody should be auto-enrolled into a religion, particularly when it comes with the imposition of a church tax to fund an institution that you may not support.
In secular democracies churches have to learn to stand on their own feet and not rely on unwilling citizens or the state for financial support. That goes as much for the Church of England here as it does the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Denmark.

Hat tip: Peter Sykes

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  • Newspaniard

    The C of E and others (such as the islamofascist death cult) receive HUGE amounts of taxpayer money. I don’t see how “stands on their own feet” comes into the equation.

  • Bob

    Just because a person has been “christened” as a baby does not mean they are Christians. True Christians are those who have repented of their sins and accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, not just as Saviour but as Lord.
    These people who cancelled their membership of a “church” that baptises babies were never truly saved in the first place!

  • Broga

    @Bob: I was christened. I saw the nonsense that was religious belief as an adolescent. My children are atheists and my grandchildren seem likely to be the same. Neither my wife (an atheist) or myself tried to persuade our children one way or the other. What we did was answer questions frankly according to our opinions.
    I have been married for more than 40 years and never abused my wife.
    When the facts of belief are examined objectively by an intelligent person who has not been brainwashed beyond recall the result will be atheism. That is why atheism will always eventually overcome relious belief i.e. superstition.

  • Richard Barton

    As an atheist I fully support the poster campaign but as faith communities decline we will need to find a way of financing the preservation and conservation of important religious buildings and artefacts. For instance We cannot expect a few worshippers in a village to finance the maintenace of an important medieval church building. Some sort of taxation is needed to support buildings but, of course,not to support the religious activities which currently take place within them.

  • Barty

    How much of the tax revenue in the UK go to the CoE?
    Ditti RCC?
    Ditto Islam?
    I want to know … can anyone point me at the correct figures.

  • L.Long

    Hey Bob… How can one be “…never truly saved …” when there is no one to be truly saved from??? Or should i be frightened of Darth Vader since jesus and his ahole dad are just as real as Darth is!!
    Good work! Danish Atheists!!!!

  • Bob

    @Broga
    How do you know that your grandchildren will be atheists?
    If God, in His Sovereign mercy, opens their eyes and draws them to repentance and faith in Christ as their Lord and Saviour then they won’t be atheists.
    (Read John 6 v 37).

  • nogbad666

    Hi Bob, I have no idea what age Broga’s grandchildren are, but given that they have (apparently) not yet fully formed their religious opinions, I take it that they are quite young – perhaps not yet even teenagers. At that age, what sins could they possibly have that require repentance? And why is it an “if” God opens their eyes..? Why wouldn’t he? The problem for God is that if/when he opens their eyes, they will see for themselves that he’s not there!

  • AgentCormac

    Bob.
    Shouldn’t you be out on the street making a fool of yourself to passersby instead of sitting at your laptop making a fool of yourself to us?

  • barriejohn

    Nogbad: Bob says that “God is sovereign”. If he has decreed that the eyes of Broga’s grandchildren will not be opened, then they are destined for the Lake of Fire, irrespective of their own wishes, or the prayers of the godly.
    “Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.” (Romans 8:30 KJV)
    He even asks us to (above) look up John 6:37, where Jesus allegedly says:
    All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.”
    I rest my case!

  • Broga

    @Bob: I didn’t say my children would be atheists. I said, ” my grandchildren seem likely to be the same.” I say this because their parents are mature, intelligent and kind people. I am anticipating that their children will be the same.
    I need not read your bible reference as I have neither belief nor confidence in a book as contradictory and incredible as your bible. And why quote the King James version when there are so many versions. You seem to regard the KJ version as the word of God. Does God speak only English?
    @nogbad666 : My grandchildren are under five. They are happy, inquisitive and active children. I’m pleased their parents are not going to burden them with the guilt shame which religion uses to control people. Religion, as we know, wants the indoctrination to start early.
    @barriejohn: The day, should it occur, that my grandchildren’s eyes are opened to the fictional Jesus is the day that they submit to “the mind forged manacles.” Such an occurrence is extremely unlikely. We know that religion is largely determined by upbringing. A fact that the religious prefer to ignore.

  • Laura Roberts

    I really like their slogan: “Why does faith cost money?” It’s concise and provocative.

  • Newspaniard

    Who let Sideshow Bob back in?

  • Broga

    @Newspaniard: I think Bob is there as an example of the toxic effects of religious belief on the brain. Anyone coming new to this site can see from what they escape if they abandon religious faith.
    The regulars can say to Bob what I understand he doesn’t allow on his site where free speech is not allowed. Ironic isn’t it, that he uses the freedom of this site while denying the same freedom on his. I have never visited Bob’s site but others here have said that they have been censored.
    I don’t think Bob’s God, if he were to exist, would be happy with Bob as an example of the effects of religious belief.

  • barriejohn

    I’ve been accused (not on this site), sometimes by non-believers, of “cherrypicking” what Christians say; misrepresenting them; exaggerating their views; stereotyping them; quoting them “out of context”; ascribing mediaeval beliefs to 21st Century Christians, and so on and so forth. Visitors like Bob make my day, as they demonstrate so clearly just what some Christians actually believe, and the damage that religious indoctrination can do to otherwise intelligent minds!

  • Cali Ron

    “True Christians are those who have repented of their sins and accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, not just as Saviour but as Lord.” So you have usurped your own god’s authority and have judged who is a “true christian” and who isn’t. So much for “Judge not lest ye be judged…”
    Bob: A “true christian” is any person who is foolish enough to believe in the bible (and all it’s contradictions and different interpretations) and any one of the many different and conflicting versions of the cult of christianity.

  • Broga

    @barriejohn: “Visitors like Bob make my day, as they demonstrate so clearly just what some Christians actually believe, and the damage that religious indoctrination can do to otherwise intelligent minds.”
    I agree with that with one hesitation. Bob’s beliefs are so silly and his comments so banal and lacking in insight that he does not offer any challenge to us. He invites ridicule and not debate.

  • Stuart H.

    It’s odd that some Christian groups have now started using the term ‘money church’ to distance themselves from the new Nigerian and Brazilian model.
    I’ve never seen ANY church that didn’t pay more attention to screwing more money out of their worshippers (and increasingly the state) than the real world problems of the folk who sit in their pews.

  • Peter Sykes

    Binary Orthogonal Brainless:
    “Christianity as antiquity. — When we hear the ancient bells growling on a Sunday morning we ask ourselves: Is it really possible! This, for a Jew, crucified two thousand years ago, who said he was God’s son? The proof of such a claim is lacking. Certainly the Christian religion is an antiquity projected into our times from remote prehistory; and the fact that the claim is believed — whereas one is otherwise so strict in examining pretensions — is perhaps the most ancient piece of this heritage. A god who begets children with a mortal woman; a sage who bids men work no more, have no more courts, but look for the signs of the impending end of the world; a justice that accepts the innocent as a vicarious sacrifice; someone who orders his disciples to drink his blood; prayers for miraculous interventions; sins perpetrated against a god, atoned for by a god; fear of a beyond to which death is the portal; the form of the cross as a symbol in a time that no longer knows the function and ignominy of the cross — how ghoulishly all this touches us, as if from the tomb of a primeval past! Can one believe that such things are still believed?” – Friedrich Nietzsche

  • Lucy1

    @Bob
    But if God can’t be arsed, then they will rot in the firey pits of hell….or possibly not.

  • Broga

    @Lucy1: Only a megalomaniac, with a deluded sense of his own worth, would expect his behaviour in the sliver of time that is human life to justify an infinity spent in paradise. We are all flawed and far from perfect. Accept that and do the best we can in the only life we have. The treasure in heaven is a delusion and a carrot for those who have little to make them happy on Earth.

  • Bubblecar

    I was christened Ukrainian Orthodox because it was the “done thing” amongst the Ukrainian refugees in the UK post WW2, even though neither of my parents were religious (indeed they later became unashamed atheists).
    I pre-empted them at the age of five, after performing in a nativity and being thoroughly underwhelmed by all the magical bullshit. I was actually quite disgusted that there were grownups who literally believed in this nonsense. I remember my parents sympathised with my point of view but cautioned me to keep it to myself, as nearly all their friends and relatives believed in “these mumbo-jumbos” as my Dad called them.

  • Broga

    @Bubblecar: I too was christened – Scottish Presbyterian. My religious upbringing was casual and no pressure. I became an atheist when I was about 15. I couldn’t get any answers from my religious relatives and concluded that they had none to give. They wouldn’t even discuss religion with me apart from telling me that I was wrong not to believe.

  • RussellW

    Even though I experienced a relatively low pressure Presbyterian education, I can’t remember ever being a believer as an adult. I just don’t understand why otherwise rational people would believe in such obvious nonsense. Some people reason their way out of religious belief, I’ve never believed.
    Jesus was a wandering rabbi, who was preaching to Jews and who also, was executed for political offences by the Romans. Christianity was invented by St Paul.
    Bob,
    If you have the time, I’d appreciate your explanation of the problems in reconciling the nature of the world with the omniscient and omnipotent Christian god, i.e. theodicy.

  • Broga

    @RussellW: We would all like to see Bob answer that one. He won’t because he can’t. If God is omnipotent he could stop the suffering but doesn’t so he is not a loving God. If he wanted to stop the suffering but cannot he is not omnipotent.
    The fact is that the Christian God is a deeply unpleasant fiction as his inerrant holy book demonstrates.

  • barriejohn

    Of course he can’t solve that conundrum – there is no answer to it. But Bob has been busy on his blog recently:
    http://www.bobhutton1.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/proof-that-genesis-12-v-3-is-correct.html
    Have you ever read such a load of codswallop?

  • RussellW

    @ Broga,
    Yes, I’m sure most commenters here would agree, it’s a devastating refutation of Christian doctrine, however it doesn’t seem to trouble the average believer. The ‘explanation’ is that ‘God works in mysterious ways’ or some similar bullshit.
    I think it was the Gnostics who believed that the world was created by an evil spirit, which actually makes slightly more sense.

  • Bob

    @RussellW:
    God is sovereign. He is in control of all things; indeed, he fore-ordains them while at the same time giving us free will.
    An example of this is as follows;
    God appoints the government (Romans 13 v 1) but, in this country, we choose the govt. by the ballot box. We have the freedom of choice to vote for a candidate but God ordains the end result.
    None of us can fully understand, or reconcile, these matters but the Bible teaches both the sovereignty of God and the free will of man – so we accept both. See Psalm 135 v 6 and John 5 v 40.
    Regards
    Bob

  • barriejohn

    RussellW: You’re so right. I was told over and over again that “we’ll understand it all in Heaven”. Hahahahaha!!!
    https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/h/715

  • Daz

    Bob, Bob, Bob, you silly man. I’ve told you this before.
    If foreknowledge is possible, even for a god, then the future has to be fixed, and free will is therefore a logical impossibility. If free will is possible, then the future has to be fluid in order that choices may be made, and is therefore unknowable.
    A universe in which foreknowledge and free will are both possible is paradoxical, and therefore cannot exist.
    You can have either or neither, but not both, in the same universe.
    Do keep up, Bob me lad.

  • Bob

    @Daz
    You are looking at this with a finite mind that is corrupted by sin, that is why you are not willing to accept this.
    Look up 1st Corinthians 2 v 14. Unless God opens your eyes and implants the gift of faith you won’t accept this truth.

  • Daz

    Jebus H Christ on a hovermower!
    Bob, the statement that a free choice may be fore-ordained is equivalent to the statement that a perfectly normal coin can come up both heads and tails at the same time. It’s nonsense. “Heads” is functionally equivalent to “not tails.” “Freely chosen” is functionally equivalent to “not fore-ordained.”
    And if your precious god decides not to open my eyes, then he, not me, is to blame for my lack of faith, in which case his decision to send me to his basement torture-room as punishment for my lack of faith is immoral and hypocritical.
    All of this is basic reasoning that a twelve-year-old could follow.

  • David Anderson

    Bob, the Iffy Fucktar of the god delusion.

  • barriejohn

    Daz: They tell you that you shouldn’t use “reason” to understand God’s ways. Next question: Why did God give us reasoning capabilities if he didn’t want us to use them?

  • Broga

    @Daz: Prayer is asking an omniscient God to change its mind. Poor Bob has lost the plot. He thinks his God communicates in King James English. But fair play to Bob, his comments, viewed with detachment, are very funny.

  • Broga

    @barriejohn: I suppose I must have read such a load of codswallop somewhere at some time but I can’t recollect where or when. Bob looks at an event and then invents some fantasies which he sees as biblical insights to explain what has happened.
    Why doesn’t the so irritatingly knowledgeable Bob tell us something before it has happened. For example:
    The result of the Grand National;
    Some football scores;
    The result of the vote on whether to stay in Europe.
    Or could he pray for his God to replace someone’s missing leg. Lots of military men would welcome that.

  • Bob

    @Broga
    The vote on the EU will be for “In”.
    I received my leaflet from the govt. telling us to vote to stay, and I’ve put it back in the post – felt like putting it in the bin but didn’t. (and no, I didn’t put a stamp on it! I just put the whole leaflet in the post box without an envelope).
    The “Ins” will win.

  • RussellW

    Bob,
    “None of us can fully understand, or reconcile, these matters but the Bible teaches both the sovereignty of God and the free will of man – so we accept both.”
    (1) Why do we accept both, when the conditions, are, as Daz has demonstrated, obviously mutually exclusive?
    (2) Why do you accept the sovereignty of the Judeo-Christian God rather than Allah, Zeus, Brahma, Odin or, like Buddha,you could regard the gods as irrelevant?
    (3) Why does your God allow, or cause, billions of people to suffer?
    “None of us can fully understand, or reconcile, these matters…”
    (4) Yes, indeed,that’s the point isn’t it? Christians (and other believers) make a virtue out of incoherence and contradictions.
    I’m not interested in Biblical references, because there’s no evidence for the existence of a deity, or the supernatural. I presume you can’t defend your beliefs from first principles.

  • Broga

    @barriejohn: I think I may have delivered myself into Bob’s hands. Bob tells me that the E.U. vote will be to stay in. If it is to stay in that can be trumpeted as divine revelation. If the vote is to get out Bob, as a Christian, will forget about it.
    On the God and reason thing I think Bob has upset God and will be consigned to the eternal flames. Reason is our most precious gift from God who has set some tests for those who choose not to use it. The tests include a book of nonsense (but containing some great literature) said to be God’s truth. Preachers who preach the incredible. Claims about miracles and saints. Creationism. And much else.
    Those who believe this nonsense are spitting in God’s face and rejecting his most precious gift. God is seriously upset by this and he is sending them to hell. Those who reject the nonsense e.g. Barry Duke and atheists generally, God welcomes and they are going to heaven.
    Sorry Bob, you are going to hell, straight into the burning pit and to suffer the agonies of the damned for all eternity. Embrace atheism fast before it is too late. You could start by reading The God Delusion. We atheists are going to heaven to have a great time.

  • Cali Ron

    “You are looking at this with a finite mind that is corrupted by sin…” Tell me Bob, how sin can corrupt a mind so that logic is no longer logical. No matter how “corrupted” my mind supposedly is with sin my reasoning capabilities are still intact and they tell me that you can’t have free will and per-ordination at the same time. Are you too daft to understand that? Mind too corrupted by your god delusion? Sorry Bob, but my mind is not corrupted by sin, your mind is corrupted by your foolish belief in a non-existent god.
    One thing I know for sure and without any doubts is that all religions were created by men, flawed, ignorant men, not god. Your smug and typical christian (I’m going to heaven and your not) condescending attitude only makes you look more foolish to intelligent, rational thinking human beings. None are so blind…

  • Stonyground

    I don’t think that Bob could pass the Turing test.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

  • AgentCormac

    @Bob
    ‘God appoints the government (Romans 13 v 1) but, in this country, we choose the govt. by the ballot box. We have the freedom of choice to vote for a candidate but God ordains the end result.’
    So, what you’re saying is that your fictional friend allows us the illusion of freedom of choice, but in reality we have no choice at all because said fictional friend has rigged the ballot from day one. Have you ever, for one second, stood back and considered just absurd that argument is? How utterly nonsensical and implausible that might be?
    I once worked for a very talented and intelligent man who had an expression for people who just ‘didn’t get it’. That expression was ‘mental midgets’. You,Mr Hutton, make mental midgets seem like giants.

  • 1859

    Can someone please shut Bob the Builder up. His claptrap is becoming deafening.

  • Bob

    @Cali Ron
    Would you ask your dog to read the paper? He is highly intelligent but is incapable of reading the paper.
    In a similar way, man is an intelligent being but is incapable of understanding all God’s ways – Isaiah 55 v 8-9.

  • Stonyground

    Having read the entire Bible from cover to cover, I have to say that, rather than being of infinite intelligence, God comes across as being a bit stupid and a blundering incompetent. I can’t imagine him being able to hold down a job in the real world, he would be living on benefits on a sink estate.

  • AgentCormac

    Funny you should mention living on benefits, Stonyground. Did you know that our friend Bob choses to live on hand-outs rather than doing a day’s work?

  • barriejohn

    AgentCormac: I knew many evangelists and “teachers” like that. “God” provided for their needs – hahahahaha.

  • Cali Ron

    Bob: Typical Christian response, a deflection because you can’t explain the contradiction.

  • AgentCormac

    @barriejohn
    But apparently he isn’t a scrounger. And as you say, his invisible friend pays all the bills.
    https://thehuttondelusion.wordpress.com/2015/01/09/a-strange-tale-of-jabberwockies-evangelists-icebergs-and-physicists/#comments

  • Cali Ron

    Bob: Nobody can understand god’s ways because he doesn’t exist.

  • AgentCormac

    @Cali Ron
    ‘ Nobody can understand god’s ways because he doesn’t exist.’
    Is right. And Hutton’s claim that we can disregard all the nonsense and contradictions which the bibles contains simply because we are somehow unable to ‘understand god’s ways’ is pretty much the most feeble, pathetic and contemptible excuse which the religious can ever throw at you. On an intellectual level it is truly shameful.

  • Bob

    @AgentCormac
    You accuse me of being on benefits.
    You lying arab! I’m not on benefits.

  • AgentCormac

    @Bob
    Read it again, idiot. I said that you refuse to work and that you live on hand-outs. Something which you yourself have previously admitted to – although you attribute those hand-outs to your imaginary friend. I quote: ‘I’ve never had a professional job with an income to match… God provided for our needs to such an extent that we have a house that is more than adequate for our needs with no mortgage on it.’
    And by the way, don’t you think accusing me of being a ‘lying Arab’ is rather racist?

  • Bob

    @AgentCormac
    You DID accuse me of living on benefits (Wed 13/4/16 at 2.52pm) and, yes, you are a lying arab.

  • AgentCormac

    Didn’t, didn’t, didn’t!!!!
    There you go Bob – intellectual debate the Hutton way.
    And if you aren’t living on benefits, perhaps you could clarify for us all how you managed to raise a family in a house with no mortgage without ever doing a day’s work.

  • Daz

    To be fair, “never had a professional job” is not the same as “never had a job.”
    But, Bob; “Lying Arab”? Really? Got any more racist clichés you’d like to throw in?

  • AgentCormac

    @Daz
    Bobby boy hasn’t contradicted me on the ‘never had a job’ front – which I’m sure he would have done if it wasn’t true. And I assume by ‘never had a professional job’ he means his parents made him get a paper round or similar when he was a child. But I’m sure he’ll soon clear it all up for us, especially the assertion that his invisible friend has provided everything for him. How nice to find a cheque from god on your doormat every now and again!

  • barriejohn

    All that Bob has to do is to clarify what the source of his income has been. Surely that would be better than throwing racist insults around? Without that information this argument is going nowhere, as no one can be sure what his statement means.

  • AgentCormac

    He has been asked the question, barriejohn, but somehow I don’t think we’ll be getting a reply. And without that information we can only speculate on how he has paid his way. Or indeed how others who do graft for their income and pay their taxes have been financially burdened with carrying him all his life.

  • AgentCormac

    Well, in one last futile attempt to get Bob to start engaging again on this topic I have submitted a comment on his blog asking him to explain how god has bankrolled his life. I know he won’t publish said comment (he never does), but quite frankly his silence speaks volumes and tells us everything we need to know about where the Hutton income has actually come from over the years. And I fear it is literally at the expense of the decent, honest and hard-working people who live in his locale and who, by way of gratitude, he harangues with his delusions on a daily basis. Nice work, Bob!

  • Bob

    @my critics and disaffected friends
    I work part time in secular employment. Because I don’t have a mortgage (it was paid off a while ago) I can survive on little income. My Gospel work is done “without charge” (1st Cor 9 v 18).
    However, it is true that some have freely given money to me, without solicitation, and I have used this to cover travelling expenses.
    If you want to criticise my views that is free speech and I accept that, but it is most unfair to accuse me of being on benefits.
    As far as being racist is concerned, while I have every respect for arabs and don’t wish to do them harm I would encourage you to read Genesis 16 v 11-12.
    Regards to all
    Bob

  • barriejohn

    “And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.” (Gen. 16:11-12 KJV)
    And that justifies hatred of Arabs!

  • AgentCormac

    @Bob
    So you do have a job and you do accept hand-outs. So not god providing for your needs afterall.

  • Bob

    @AgentCormac
    The Lord raises up people to provide for His work. When people give to God’s work then He gives to them.
    @barriejohn
    I don’t hate arabs but I feel sorry for them.

  • Daz

    “I don’t hate arabs but I feel sorry for them.”
    …And see nothing wrong with portraying them as liars based on nothing but a putative common ancestry. (That’s pretty much the definition of racism, Bob. Oh, and what is it you actually feel sorry for them for, exactly?)
    “I don’t hate gays but I feel sorry for them.”
    …And see nothing wrong with treating them as second-class citizens, demonising them as “perverts.”
    “I don’t hate unemployed people but I feel sorry for them.”
    …And see nothing wrong with implying that they’re all lazy good-for-nothings who should be starved to the point where they’re willing to endure being preached at and moralised at, in order to obtain a stale bread-roll and a bowl of soup.
    “I don’t hate atheists but I feel sorry for them.”
    …And see nothing wrong with smugly crowing about how they’re bound for hell, whenever one of them dies.
    Bob, if the upshot of your “feeling sorry” for people is that they get treated worse than they would have if you’d ignored them completely, what, precisely, is the practical difference between that and hatred?

  • Bob

    @Daz
    Calm down, dear!

  • Daz

    Bob, darling, I’m perfectly calm.
    I notice you didn’t bother to answer the question though.

  • barriejohn

    AgentCormac: When you are “saved”, God provides for ALL your needs. Money quite literally drops into your lap!
    http://www.leslieey.com/provision.html
    Peruse that little lot if you will. I was fed loads of that nonsense as a young Christian; mostly complete fiction, with a smattering of happy coincidence thrown in for good measure.

  • AgentCormac

    @Bob
    What a strange and perplexing little dreamworld you live in. Reality is definitely something that happens to other people, isn’t it?
    @barriejohn
    Thanks for the link. There are some deeply deluded folk out there.

  • Bob

    @barriejohn
    Many thanks for the link, it was very encouraging to read of examples of God’s provision. I have known this in my own life many times, and continue to do so.
    Regards
    Bob