{"id":6388,"date":"2013-05-13T06:00:38","date_gmt":"2013-05-13T13:00:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/thepangeablog\/?p=6388"},"modified":"2013-05-12T22:46:46","modified_gmt":"2013-05-13T05:46:46","slug":"revelation-17-sermon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/thepangeablog\/2013\/05\/13\/revelation-17-sermon\/","title":{"rendered":"Revelation 17: The Whore, The Empire, and A Tale of Two Cities [observations and sermon download]"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_6371\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6371\" style=\"width: 275px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/store.jimlepage.com\/products\/word-revelation\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-6371  \" title=\"66-Revelation Jim LePage\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/4\/2013\/05\/66-Revelation_8x10_300dpi-819x1024.jpg\" alt='Used by Permission. \"Design by Jim LePage.\" Click Image to Purchase.' width=\"275\" height=\"344\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6371\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Used by Permission. \u201cDesign by Jim LePage.\u201d Click Image to Purchase.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>If you follow this blog regularly (and my <a href=\"http:\/\/facebook.com\/kurtwillems\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Facebook<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/kurtwillems\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Twitter<\/a> feeds), you probably have noticed that I\u2019ve been doing some research on the book of Revelation. Last week, I posted what I think will be the first of several scattered posts about my findings as I study the book [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/thepangeablog\/2013\/05\/07\/corrective-strategies-and-themes-revelation\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Corrective Strategies and Themes for Understanding the Book of Revelation (Tired of the chaos? Me too!)<\/a>].<\/p>\n<p>My first\u00a0experiment\u00a0in preaching from Revelation took place yesterday (5\/12\/13)\u2026 well, if we don\u2019t count the obvious ways that I have incorporated\u00a0Revelation\u00a021-22 into my preaching engagements over the past several years. My home church, College Community Church \u2013 Mennonite Brethren, has walked through Revelation since the first week after Resurrection Sunday.<\/p>\n<p>The passage I was asked to cover was Revelation 17. Specifically, I was invited to talk about how Christians are to relate to earthly powers. So, in\u00a0continuity\u00a0with the rest of the sermon series, I put together some thoughts on how to understand Babylon \u2013 the whore \u2013 and how to relate to our modern day \u201cBabylon \u2013 the USA (<a href=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/thepangeablog\/files\/2013\/05\/Revelation-17_-The-Whore-the-Empire-A-Tale-of-Two-Cities.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">download sermon<\/a>).<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Before I get too far into content, let\u2019s read the biblical text (which was read aloud just prior to my <a href=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/thepangeablog\/files\/2013\/05\/Revelation-17_-The-Whore-the-Empire-A-Tale-of-Two-Cities.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">sermon<\/a>).<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1\u00a0Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, \u201cCome, I will show you the judgment of the great whore who is seated on many waters,\u00a02\u00a0with whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and with the wine of whose fornication the inhabitants of the earth have become drunk.\u201d\u00a03\u00a0So he carried me away in the spirit\u00a0into a wilderness, and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten horns.\u00a04\u00a0The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her fornication;\u00a05\u00a0and on her forehead was written a name, a mystery: \u201cBabylon the great, mother of whores and of earth\u2019s abominations.\u201d\u00a06\u00a0And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints and the blood of the witnesses to Jesus. When I saw her, I was greatly amazed.\u00a07\u00a0But the angel said to me, \u201cWhy are you so amazed? I will tell you the mystery of the woman, and of the beast with seven heads and ten horns that carries her.\u00a08\u00a0The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to ascend from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the inhabitants of the earth, whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, will be amazed when they see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come.\u00a09\u00a0\u201cThis calls for a mind that has wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; also, they are seven kings,\u00a010\u00a0of whom five have fallen, one is living, and the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain only a little while.\u00a011\u00a0As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction.\u00a012\u00a0And the ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they are to receive authority as kings for one hour, together with the beast.\u00a013\u00a0These are united in yielding their power and authority to the beast;\u00a014\u00a0they will make war on the Lamb, and the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those with him are called and chosen and faithful.\u201d\u00a015And he said to me, \u201cThe waters that you saw, where the whore is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages.\u00a016\u00a0And the ten horns that you saw, they and the beast will hate the whore; they will make her desolate and naked; they will devour her flesh and burn her up with fire.\u00a017\u00a0For God has put it into their hearts to carry out his purpose by agreeing to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God will be fulfilled.\u00a018\u00a0The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As I say in the sermon, \u201cIf that\u2019s not an appropriate text for Mother\u2019s Day, I don\u2019t know what is\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Several issues could be mentioned about this chapter of Revelation. Perhaps listing some of them here will help. For a more detailed analysis, of course, you will have to <a href=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/thepangeablog\/files\/2013\/05\/Revelation-17_-The-Whore-the-Empire-A-Tale-of-Two-Cities.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">download the sermon and listen to it<\/a> \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>This is a passage that refers to <em><strong>realities present in the first century<\/strong><\/em>. Revelation 17-18, although it has ramifications for the future, primarily speaks of the Roman Empire and the way its system was opposed to the way of God.<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>Understanding John of Patmos (the Seer, the Divine, etc) as a poet<\/strong> <\/em>helps us to frame the text within its symbolism rather than trying to overly-literalize the text. Eugene Peterson states:\u00a0 \u201cA poet uses words not to explain something, and not to describe something, but to make something. Poet (po\u0113t\u0113s) [in Greek] means \u201cmaker.\u201d Poetry is not the language of objective explanation but the language of imagination. It makes an image of reality in such a way as to invite our participation in it.\u201d[1]<\/li>\n<li>Revelation 17 is a call to <em><strong>resist the ordinary pressures of daily life in the Empire<\/strong><\/em>, not\u00a0necessarily\u00a0to resist the Empire \u201cproper\u201d as if nonviolent Christians could plot a literal insurrection.<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>The language of Babylon gives us interpretive permission to recognize the spirit of Empire in any age<\/strong><\/em>. Therefore, as Richard Bauckham states: \u201cAny society whom Babylon\u2019s cap fits must wear it.\u201d[2] Therefore, the text summons us to ask difficult questions about modern day Empire \u2013 the United States \u2013 and our allegiance\/lack-there-of to our nation of origin. So, this is a passage about God\u2019s judgment on Rome first, but then by\u00a0extension\u00a0it is about God\u2019s judgment on all Empires.<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>God\u2019s judgment is mostly about the way in which Empire self-destructs<\/strong><\/em>, not about God\u2019s direct action against Babylon [see 17.16-17] (think here of the Apostle Paul\u2019s word about \u201cGod giving them over\u201d).<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>Whore\/harlot\/prostitute language offends us<\/strong><\/em>, and it should. It\u2019s important to note the type of whore the text has in mind. One kind of prostitute, is created by the economically exploitive practices of empires as a means of survival or forced through various forms of trafficking. Revelation\u2019s whore is of a different sort. N.T. Wright states:\u00a0 \u201c\u2026have no need to sell themselves, but who have discovered it\u2019s a quick way to make quite a lot of money, and that if you play your cards right you can maintain a high social status, with fancy clothes, flittering jewels and the finest pearls.\u201d[3]<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>4 Reasons John uses whore imagery<\/strong><\/em>. 1) Revelation as a whole is a book about God\u2019s faithfulness to creation and the Lamb\u2019s eventual marriage to a restored world and a restored people (Rev 21-22).\u00a0 2) O.T. (Hosea, etc) uses marital unfaithfulness as a representation of idolatry. Babylon has become a source of idolatry through imperial religion (worship of Caesar, etc), that promotes a lifestyle of economic exploitation that leaves all empty.\u00a0 3) Worship in local temples involved prostitution and with money and power, why not live sexually careless lives? God calls us to honor God with our bodies.\u00a0 4) Prostitution lures in people to give them a sense pleasure\/power at the expense of others. The way of empire leads to oppression, especially of the poor.<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>Empire seduces the powerful to desire more power, while seducing the commoners through false security and the promise of the finer things<\/strong><\/em>. Empires eventually make grandiose claims that ought to be only reserved for God alone. They give a pleasing <em>appearance<\/em> but are full of \u201cabominations\u201d that abuse human beings for the sake of economic policies that benefit the rich. Such Empires will use any means\u00a0necessary\u00a0to silence counter-imperial voices, even lethal violence. These Empires\u00a0 expand as conquered peoples comply with their demands rather than live as the alternative.<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>The radical summons to discipleship<\/strong> <\/em>comes in the following chapter. Revelation 18.4 states:\u00a0 \u201cCome out of her my people, so that you don\u2019t take part in her sins and don\u2019t receive any of her plagues.\u201d This is sexual language, inviting followers of Jesus to \u201cpull out\u201d of the ways of Empire and its imperial religion rather than falling into the lure of her prostituting ways.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Hopefully these insights give you a bit of an intro for how to understand the whore of Revelation, Babylon, and the call to discipleship. The actual sermon that I preached, contains much more, and presents these ideas and others in a more \u201cinspirational\u201d format \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<h1>You can download it here \u2014\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/thepangeablog\/files\/2013\/05\/Revelation-17_-The-Whore-the-Empire-A-Tale-of-Two-Cities.mp3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Revelation 17 \u2013 The Whore, The Empire, &amp; A Tale of Two Cities<\/a>.<\/h1>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<hr align=\"left\" size=\"1\" width=\"33%\">\n<div>\n<p>[1] Peterson, Reversed Thunder, 3.<\/p>\n<p>[2]\u00a0Bauckham, The Theology of the Book of Revelation, 156.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>[3]\u00a0Wright, Revelation for Everyone, 150. \u201c4 Ways\u201d comes from this section.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 If you follow this blog regularly (and my Facebook and Twitter feeds), you probably have noticed that I\u2019ve been doing some research on the book of Revelation. 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