{"id":2155,"date":"2011-01-10T08:29:44","date_gmt":"2011-01-10T13:29:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.tmatt.net\/?p=2155"},"modified":"2011-01-10T08:29:44","modified_gmt":"2011-01-10T13:29:44","slug":"thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/2011\/01\/thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Thumbs down for Obama faith, again"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>For those keeping score, let it be noted that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.whitehouse.gov\/the-press-office\/2010\/12\/09\/remarks-president-lighting-national-christmas-tree\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">White House transcript<\/a> from the National Christmas Tree lighting ceremony says that President Barack Obama shouted \u201cMerry Christmas\u201d before adding \u201cHappy holidays.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>In fact, Obama said \u201cChristmas\u201d eight times, twice as often as he mentioned \u201cholidays.\u201d With his family at his side, the president also used an even more controversial word \u2014 \u201cChristian.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEach year we\u2019ve come together to celebrate a story that has endured for two millennia,\u201d he said. \u201cIt\u2019s a story that\u2019s dear to Michelle and me as Christians, but it\u2019s a message that\u2019s universal:  A child was born far from home to spread a simple message of love and redemption to every human being around the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Politicos did the Beltway math and got this number \u2014 2012.<\/p>\n<p>God talk is back in the political equation, as the clock ticks toward another campaign. Insiders are counting how often Obama clearly mentions his Christian faith and then subtracting, to cite a key statistic, the number of times he quotes the Declaration of Independence while clipping God from the line that \u201call men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Many pastors seem to be paying attention as well, according to a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lifeway.com\/article\/170590\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">recent LifeWay Research survey<\/a> that asked 1,000 Protestant pastors to judge the faith of five public figures. Researchers interviewed a spectrum of clergy, with the selection of participants based on the sizes of their national denominations. Thus, conservative flocks had more votes.<\/p>\n<p>The question: \u201cWhich, if any, of the following people do you believe are Christians?\u201d It was thumbs up for former President George W. Bush (75 percent) and GOP lightning rod Sarah Palin (66 percent), but thumbs down for Obama (41 percent), as well as media superstars Glenn Beck (27 percent) and Oprah Winfrey (19 percent).<\/p>\n<p>Among the pastors who said they were Republicans, 23 percent said Obama is a Christian, a stark contrast with the 80 percent of the pastors who identified themselves as Democrats. Among \u201cindependents,\u201d 52 percent called Obama a Christian.<\/p>\n<p>Bush was viewed as a Christian by 75 percent of the pastors, including 84 percent of those who identified their politics as \u201cliberal\u201d or \u201cvery liberal.\u201d Meanwhile, 25 percent of the \u201cvery conservative\u201d Protestant clergy declined to call Bush a Christian.<\/p>\n<p>One thing this survey made clear is that many American clergy have clashing definitions of the word \u201cChristian,\u201d said Ed Stetzer, president of LifeWay Research, which is linked to the 16 million-member Southern Baptist Convention. <\/p>\n<p>For many Americans, he said, \u201cChristian\u201d is \u201csimply an identification on a form. They see a box on a survey and they say, \u2018I am not Hindu or Jewish. I am from America, so I must be Christian.\u2019 \u2026 Pastors may see this differently. For example, evangelical pastors tend to link the term \u2018Christian\u2019 with conversion experiences.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Thus, conservative Protestants believe that people are not born into Christianity, but enter the faith by being \u201cborn again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This is why the Obama controversies are so hard to understand, stressed Stetzer. On several occasions \u2014 including in his memoirs \u2014 Obama has described what is \u201cclearly a conversion experience of some kind\u201d in which he made a public profession of Christian faith and joined the United Church of Christ.<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, Obama supporters were stunned by last year\u2019s much-publicized Pew Research Center poll that said 18 percent of Americans continue to believe that Obama is a Muslim, while only 34 percent identify him as a Christian. Another 43 percent did not know his religious faith.<\/p>\n<p>There is no way to be sure why so many of the clergy who participated in the LifeWay survey declined to call Obama a Christian, stressed Stetzer.<\/p>\n<p>A few may think he is a Muslim, while others may believe that Obama is so progressive that he is trying to affirm multiple faiths at the same time. It is likely that many conservatives believe that Obama sincerely thinks he is a Christian, but that his religious beliefs are too unorthodox to be considered doctrinally sound.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just don\u2019t think that the Muslim controversy alone is enough to explain what we\u2019re seeing here,\u201d said Stetzer. \u201cAt the end of the day, we only know that the pastors answered this way, not why they answered this way. We have more work to do on this.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For those keeping score, let it be noted that the White House transcript from the National Christmas Tree lighting ceremony says that President Barack Obama shouted \u201cMerry Christmas\u201d before adding \u201cHappy holidays.\u201d In fact, Obama said \u201cChristmas\u201d eight times, twice as often as he mentioned \u201cholidays.\u201d With his family at his side, the president also [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":610,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[97,204,235,1534,1537,527,1544],"class_list":["post-2155","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-godbeat","tag-barack-obama","tag-christianity","tag-clergy","tag-evangelicals","tag-islam","tag-mainline-protestants","tag-politics"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Thumbs down for Obama faith, again<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"For those keeping score, let it be noted that the White House transcript from the National Christmas Tree lighting ceremony says that President Barack\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/2011\/01\/thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Thumbs down for Obama faith, again\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"For those keeping score, let it be noted that the White House transcript from the National Christmas Tree lighting ceremony says that President Barack\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/2011\/01\/thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Terry Mattingly\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2011-01-10T13:29:44+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"tmatt\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"tmatt\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"4 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/2011\/01\/thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/2011\/01\/thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again\/\",\"name\":\"Thumbs down for Obama faith, again\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2011-01-10T13:29:44+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2011-01-10T13:29:44+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/#\/schema\/person\/76ce2260a572ff41a28fb285de9350f1\"},\"description\":\"For those keeping score, let it be noted that the White House transcript from the National Christmas Tree lighting ceremony says that President Barack\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/2011\/01\/thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/2011\/01\/thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/2011\/01\/thumbs-down-for-obama-faith-again\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Thumbs down for Obama faith, again\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/\",\"name\":\"Terry Mattingly\",\"description\":\"On Religion\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tmatt\/#\/schema\/person\/76ce2260a572ff41a28fb285de9350f1\",\"name\":\"tmatt\",\"description\":\"Terry Mattingly directs the Washington Journalism Center at the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. 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