{"id":10319,"date":"2014-12-03T05:15:52","date_gmt":"2014-12-03T11:15:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/?p=10319"},"modified":"2015-03-13T16:41:21","modified_gmt":"2015-03-13T21:41:21","slug":"is-rob-bell-this-or-that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2014\/12\/03\/is-rob-bell-this-or-that\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Rob Bell This or That?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5SQ5VGNxN50\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>So, Rob Bell has a TV show coming out on December 21. This is the most long-awaited show in the history of Christendom. Ever since he moved from Grand Rapids, Michigan to Laguna Beach, California, from churchland to Hollywood, we\u2019ve been waiting for his show. His first show \u2014 a drama \u2014 was shelved. His second show has been worked and reworked since it was filmed last summer. And now it\u2019s coming out.<\/p>\n<p>Also, he\u2019s got <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B00DB32QDC\/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B00DB32QDC&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkId=BUPEDZSUX5LDGNQ4\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">a new book out<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>So <strong>what do you supposed is the evangelical reaction to the amazing success of one of its own? To disown him, of course!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more-->First,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.booksandculture.com\/articles\/webexclusives\/2014\/november\/zimzum-of-love.html?paging=off\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Books and Culture<\/em><\/a>, a journal I used to hold in high esteem, published a totally lame \u201csatire\u201d of an editorial board meeting about Rob\u2019s new book. It meant to be funny, but all it did was smell like sour grapes.<\/p>\n<p>Then Sarah Pulliam Bailey, a journalist whom I still admire, published an article called, \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.religionnews.com\/2014\/12\/02\/what-ever-happened-rob-bell-pastor-questioned-gates-hell\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">What ever happened to Rob Bell, the pastor who questioned the gates of hell?<\/a>\u201d She writes,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Now, the man who built a church of an estimated 10,000 people isn\u2019t even attending an organized church. Instead, he surfs the waves near Hollywood and has teamed up with the goddess of pop theology, Oprah Winfrey.<\/p>\n<p>Exchanging his evangelical bona fides for the blessing of Oprah may yet prove to be his most unforgivable sin, at least in some circles.\u00a0Which is not to say that Bell cares very much what anyone says these days.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Since when do you hand in your evangelical membership card when you do business with a television star?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s odd about this for me is how quickly evangelicals embrace Christian\u00a0athletes, movie stars, and singers. If you\u2019re a rock star and you love Jesus, prepare to be on the cover of Christian magazines. And don\u2019t prepare for people to ask if you\u2019re a universalist, because no one will.<\/p>\n<p>But if you\u2019re a former pastor, prepare to be loathed. Maybe it\u2019s professional jealousy, because surely it\u2019s not theology. No way. If that were the case, then <em>Books and Culture<\/em> would have written satires mocking John Piper and T.D. Jakes long ago.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019d rather read something by someone who understands what evangelicalism is really supposed to be, check out <a href=\"http:\/\/danielleshroyer.com\/2014\/12\/02\/rob-bell-better-evangelical-evangelicals\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">this post from Danielle Shroyer<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #555555;\">If Oprah calls you up and invites you to share your thoughts on your faith, what kind of a moron would you have to be to say no? Would evangelicals really rather someone NOT be talking about God? Is it really that dire? Is Rob Bell so bad, so different from you, that\u00a0<\/span><em style=\"color: #555555;\">silence<\/em><span style=\"color: #555555;\">\u00a0is the better option? Because that\u2019s what evangelicals currently have with broader culture: silence. Crickets. The vast majority of America has tuned them out.\u00a0<\/span><strong style=\"color: #555555;\">What kind of special prize do evangelicals think they are getting by not connecting with\u00a0the very people they say they want to reach?<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As for me, I welcome Rob\u2019s success. A rising tide lifts all boats. And maybe he\u2019ll catalyze a conversation about meaning, truth, God, and scripture that will ripple out and touch all of us who care about such things.<br>\n\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2013<\/p>\n<p><em>You can find all of Tony\u2019s books\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/astore.amazon.com\/theoblogy0f-20\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">HERE<\/a>, and you can sign up to be the first to know about his next book,\u00a0<\/em>Did God Kill Jesus?<em>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/eepurl.com\/n8oeb\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">HERE<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none; overflow: hidden; width: 600px; height: 290px;\" src=\"\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/likebox.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fjonestony&amp;width=600&amp;height=290&amp;colorscheme=light&amp;show_faces=true&amp;header=true&amp;stream=false&amp;show_border=true\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, Rob Bell has a TV show coming out on December 21. 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