{"id":229,"date":"2006-11-27T09:34:00","date_gmt":"2006-11-27T15:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/tonyj.net\/2006\/11\/27\/of-straw-men\/"},"modified":"2015-03-13T17:11:27","modified_gmt":"2015-03-13T22:11:27","slug":"of-straw-men","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2006\/11\/27\/of-straw-men\/","title":{"rendered":"Of Straw Men"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>I\u2019ve had an interesting email conversation with my new friend, <a href=\"http:\/\/thesmileonadog.blogspot.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jeff<\/a> (aka, Senor Jefe). He responded to my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.emergentvillage.com\/weblog\/giving-thanks-for-thoughtful-critics\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">post<\/a>, on the Emergent Village blog, about STR\u2019s Brett Kunkle, and the paper that Brett delivered to the Evangelical Theological Society a couple weeks back.<\/p>\n<p>Jeff argues that Brett creates <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Straw_man\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">straw men<\/a>, only to knock them down. I\u2019ve often had this concern about the critics of Emergent, and it\u2019s nice to hear that someone else sees that tendency, too. Several times a week, I get an emails that go something like this: \u201cI think that you emergents are in danger of ________. Can you tell me if you are or aren\u2019t?\u201d I respond by asking for spcific examples of said heresy, and I get back a quote from a McLaren book that doesn\u2019t explictly name the heresy, but maybe dances near it. It seems to me that Brett does this in his paper: these guys aren\u2019t heretics, but the things they say make me think that maybe, someday, they will be.<\/p>\n<p>This raises all sorts of questions, like,<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Who determines orthodoxy and heresy in a post-conciliar age?<\/li>\n<li>Did everyone in the room know Brett to be orthodox?<\/li>\n<li>Will someone let me know when I am unorthodox?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Scot McKnight had a good <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jesuscreed.org\/?p=1701\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">post<\/a> on this type of thing last week.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve had an interesting email conversation with my new friend, Jeff (aka, Senor Jefe). 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