{"id":4930,"date":"2012-02-08T13:28:19","date_gmt":"2012-02-08T19:28:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/?p=4930"},"modified":"2015-03-13T16:52:44","modified_gmt":"2015-03-13T21:52:44","slug":"david-carr-on-making-and-breaking-bread-with-clay-shirky","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2012\/02\/08\/david-carr-on-making-and-breaking-bread-with-clay-shirky\/","title":{"rendered":"David Carr on Making &#8211; and Breaking &#8211; Bread with Clay Shirky"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure style=\"width: 480px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Clay Shirky's bread (David Carr\/New York Times)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>It seems that two of my heroes \u2014 NY Times columnist, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B003E7ET76\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=B003E7ET76\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">David Carr<\/a>, and media expert and professor, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0143114948\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0143114948\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Clay Shirky<\/a> \u2014 had dinner with a group of plugged in journalists and mediaistas recently at Shirky\u2019s apartment. Carr wrote about the experience yesterday on the <a href=\"http:\/\/mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com\/2012\/02\/07\/my-dinner-with-clay-shirky-and-what-i-learned-about-friendship\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Media Decoder<\/a> blog.<\/p>\n<p>Carr\u2019s reflections on the evening, however, don\u2019t really center on how Twitter spurred the Arab Spring, or about the Facebook IPO. Instead, he writes about Shirky\u2019s prowess at baking bread, <strong>which Carr only learned because Shirky had him over for dinner<\/strong>. (I, myself, am a bread-baker, so this story is even closer to my heart!) In fact, Carr was so enticed that he got Shirky\u2019s recipe and has tried baking some bread for himself.<\/p>\n<p>Carr\u2019s column is, ultimately, a parable. For all the hand-wringing about what our online world does to us \u2014 how it depersonalizes everything, how everyone is glued to their mini-phone-screen all day \u2014 it turns out that social media has great power to bring people together, and to turn \u201cfriends\u201d into friends.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of the column-cum-parable, Carr quotes Shirky in what might be a good adage for our age:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>\u201cWhen people talk to one another long enough, they want to meet, and when they\u2019ve been in one another\u2019s presence, they want to keep in touch.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It seems that two of my heroes \u2014 NY Times columnist, David Carr, and media expert and professor, Clay Shirky \u2014 had dinner with a group of plugged in journalists and mediaistas recently at Shirky\u2019s apartment. Carr wrote about the experience yesterday on the Media Decoder blog. 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