{"id":846,"date":"2009-12-11T06:05:02","date_gmt":"2009-12-11T12:05:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/?p=846"},"modified":"2015-03-13T17:03:42","modified_gmt":"2015-03-13T22:03:42","slug":"didache-blog-tour-day-nine-the-creeds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/11\/didache-blog-tour-day-nine-the-creeds\/","title":{"rendered":"Didache Blog Tour &#8211; Day Nine: The Creeds"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/dwightfriesen.com\/2009\/12\/tony-jones-teaching-of-the-12\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dwight Friesen<\/a> has attempted to answer the compelling and important question,<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><em>D<\/em><em>oes the Didache teach  or advise anything that substantively differs from what was decided at  the earliest ecumenical church councils (such as Nicaea)?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In <em>The Teaching of the Twelve: Beleiving and Practicing the Primitive Christianity of the Ancient Didache Community<\/em>, I make a lot of how much the Didache is <em>like<\/em> the synoptic Gospels, and how <em>little<\/em> it resembles the Fourth Gospel, Paul, even more so, those who established the ecclecial hierarchy, like Ignatius.\u00a0 I date the Didache early (AD 50-70) \u2014 we can talk about that more here if we need to.\u00a0 But the point is that the Didache was seemingly unfamiliar with the writings of Paul.<\/p>\n<p>So, the question this raises for me is, if the Didache portrays a different version of Christian faith than the early church councils, <strong>were the Councils overly Pauline in their perspective?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Dwight writes,<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">While the Didache is a one of our earliest glimpses into the  practical life of primitive Christians; a glimpse into how the people  gathering together in Christ and seeking to live in the way of Jesus  actually engaged culture, economics, community, and ritual etc. it is  striking at how little doctrine it presents.\u00a0 While just the opposite  could be said of the Creed born of our First Church Council at Nic\u00e6a<strong> <\/strong>(325) . . . in the document out of Nic\u00e6a we have a fairly  clear confession of beliefs with no practices or rituals.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">This to me is the primary difference between the two documents.\u00a0 One  is concerned with <strong><em>how<\/em><\/strong> we should live, the  other <strong><em>what<\/em><\/strong> we confess.<\/p>\n<p>You can go to <a href=\"http:\/\/dwightfriesen.com\/2009\/12\/tony-jones-teaching-of-the-12\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dwight\u2019s blog<\/a> to read his conclusion.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Online Resources:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1557255903?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoblogy-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1557255903\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Buy the book at Amazon for $10.11 <\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.paracletepress.com\/the-teaching-of-the-twelve-believing-and-practicing-the-primitive-christianity-of-the-ancient-didach.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Buy 3 or more from Paraclete for 40% off<\/a> (<span style=\"color: #ff0000\"><strong>Today is the final day of this deal!<\/strong><\/span><span style=\"color: #ff0000\"><strong><\/strong><\/span>)<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.paracletepress.com\/didache.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Read      our full translation of the Didache<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/files\/2009\/11\/Didache.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Listen to me read the Didache<\/a> (17 minutes, mp3 file)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Previously: <a href=\"http:\/\/pomomusings.com\/2009\/12\/01\/didache\/#more-5053\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Adam<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/everydayliturgy.com\/didache-tony-jones\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Thomas<\/a>,      and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/didache-blog-tour-day-one-chapter-one\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">me<\/a> on chapter one.  <a href=\"http:\/\/moffou.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/didache-community-then-and-now.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Amy<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/communityofjesus.wordpress.com\/2009\/12\/02\/the-didache-community-then-and-now\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ted<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/didache-blog-tour-day-two-chapter-three\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">me<\/a> on chapter three.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/happydaydeadfish.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/how-many-ways-are-there-look-at-chapter.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Holly<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/homebrewedchristianity.com\/2009\/12\/03\/the-heart-of-god-on-paper\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Tripp<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/didache-blog-tour-day-three-chapter-four\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">me<\/a> on chapter four.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/miketodd.typepad.com\/waving_or_drowning\/2009\/12\/the-didache.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mike<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/didache-blog-tour-day-four-chapter-five\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">me<\/a> on chapter five.\u00a0 Brother Maynard and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/didache-blog-tour-day-five-chapter-six\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">me<\/a> on chapter six.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/comingtolife.blogspot.com\/2009\/12\/its-end-of-world-as-we-know-it-and-i.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mike<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/holinessreeducation.com\/2009\/12\/06\/the-end-is-nigh-the-didache-and-the-apocalypse\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Greg<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/didache-blog-tour-day-six-chapter-seven\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">me<\/a> on chapter seven.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/lukecmiller.wordpress.com\/2009\/12\/07\/a-look-at-the-didache\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/didache-blog-tour-day-seven-epilogue\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">me<\/a> on the epilogue.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/jonathanbrink.com\/2009\/12\/08\/the-teaching-of-the-twelve-blog-tour\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jonathan<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/tonyjones\/2009\/12\/didache-blog-tour-day-eight-a-special-question\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">me<\/a> on the importance of the Didache.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dwight Friesen has attempted to answer the compelling and important question, Does the Didache teach or advise anything that substantively differs from what was decided at the earliest ecumenical church councils 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