{"id":11280,"date":"2015-03-21T13:17:24","date_gmt":"2015-03-21T17:17:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/?p=11280"},"modified":"2015-03-24T13:13:51","modified_gmt":"2015-03-24T17:13:51","slug":"how-do-we-talk-about-heaven-and-sin-radio-readings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2015\/03\/how-do-we-talk-about-heaven-and-sin-radio-readings.html","title":{"rendered":"How Do We Talk About Heaven and Sin? [Radio Readings]"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">You can listen to\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"ext-link decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0066cc;\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.realliferadio.com\/fights-in-good-faith-with-leah-libresco.html\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-wpel-target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cFights in Good Faith,\u201d<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0my weekly radio program,\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"ext-link decorated-link\" style=\"color: #0066cc;\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/tunein.com\/radio\/Real-Life-Radio-1380-s31056\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-wpel-target=\"_blank\" target=\"_blank\">streaming today at 5pm ET and tomorrow (Sun) at 1pm<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0\u00a0The episode is now <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realliferadio.com\/fights-in-good-faith-with-leah-libresco.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">available to download and stream<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/84\/2015\/01\/fights-in-good-faith.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter  wp-image-10858\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/84\/2015\/01\/fights-in-good-faith.jpg\" alt=\"fights in good faith\" width=\"510\" height=\"204\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Every week, I put up a \u201cRadio Readings\u201d post, so you can track down the books, articles, and (this week) adorable experiments that I cite on the show. So, without further ado, here\u2019s what I\u2019m talking about this week.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>\u201cDeny the Cat and Refuse Thy Nature\u2026\u201d<\/h3>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1493508075\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1493508075&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=unequyoked-20&amp;linkId=UIBMWEMF4KMYTJSG\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">G.K. Chesterton\u2019s\u00a0<em>Orthodoxy<\/em><\/a>:<br>\n<blockquote><p>Modern masters of science are much impressed with the need of beginning all inquiry with a fact. The ancient masters of religion were quite equally impressed with that necessity. They began with the fact of sin\u2014a fact as practical as potatoes. Whether or no man could be washed in miraculous waters, there was no doubt at any rate that he wanted washing. But certain religious leaders in London, not mere materialists, have begun in our day not to deny the highly disputable water, but to deny the indisputable dirt. Certain new theologians dispute original sin, which is the only part of Christian theology which can really be proved. Some followers of the Reverend R. J. Campbell, in their almost too fastidious spirituality, admit divine sinlessness, which they cannot see even in their dreams. But they essentially deny human sin, which they can see in the street. The strongest saints and the strongest sceptics alike took positive evil as the starting-point of their argument. If it be true (as it certainly is) that a man can feel exquisite happiness in skinning a cat, then the religious philosopher can only draw one of two deductions. He must either deny the existence of God, as all atheists do; or he must deny the present union between God and man, as all Christians do. The new theologians seem to think it a highly rationalistic solution to deny the cat.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0062300466\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0062300466&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=unequyoked-20&amp;linkId=OKJTP46WXSKY52VU\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Francis Spufford\u2019s\u00a0<em>Unapologetic: Why, Despite Everything, Christianity Can Still Make Surprising Emotional Sense<\/em><\/a>:<br>\n<blockquote><p>Everybody knows, then, that \u201csin\u201d basically means \u201cindulgence\u201d or \u201cenjoyable naughtiness.\u201d \u00a0If you\u00a0<em>were<\/em> worried, you\u2019d use a different word or phrase. \u00a0You\u2019d talk about \u201ceating disorders\u201d or \u201caddictions\u201d; you\u2019d go to another vocabulary cloud altogether. \u00a0The result is that when you come across someone trying to use \u201csin\u201d in its old sense, you may know perfectly well in theory that they must mean something which isn\u2019t principally chocolately, and yet the modern mood music of the word is so insistent that it\u2019s hard to hear anything except an invocation of a trivially naughty pleasure. \u00a0And if someone talks, gravely and earnestly, about what a sorrowful burden one of those is, the result will be to make that speaker seem swiftly much, much more alarming than the thing they\u2019re getting worked up about. \u00a0For which would seem to you to be the bigger problem, the bigger threat to human happiness: a plate of pralines, or a killjoy religious fanatic denouncing them?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li>Romans 7:15 \u201cI do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do\u201d is <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Akrasia\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">akrasia<\/a> in secular terms<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>Lewis\u2019s Map of Our Divided Self<\/h3>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0060652934\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0060652934&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=unequyoked-20&amp;linkId=CTZU5RL5PZOQJI5W\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">C.S. Lewis\u2019s\u00a0<em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em><\/a> [written as instructions from a senior devil to a junior tempter]:<br>\n<blockquote><p>You will find that anything or nothing is sufficient to attract his wandering attention. You no longer need a good book, which he really likes, to keep him from his prayers or his work or his sleep; a column of advertisements in yesterday\u2019s paper will do. You can make him waste his time not only in conversation he enjoys with people whom he likes, but also in conversations with those he cares nothing about, on subjects that bore him. You can make him do nothing at all for long periods. You can keep him up late at night, not roistering, but staring at a dead fire in a cold room. All the healthy and outgoing activities which we want him to avoid can be inhibited and nothing given in return, so that at last he may say\u2026\u2019I now see that I spent most my life in doing neither what I ought nor what I liked.\u2019<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Acedia\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Acedia<\/a> \u2014 a listlessness or torpor that is the direct opposite of spiritual joy (distinct from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sloth_%28deadly_sin%29\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">sloth<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>Haggling for Access to Heaven<\/h3>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Some framings of heaven\/salvation make it sound like a test of our capacity to delay gratification\u2013a scaled up version of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Marshmallow Test<\/a><br>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=x3S0xS2hdi4\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=x3S0xS2hdi4<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Or people talk about salvation as a big swap, where we give God something He wants in exchange for what we want, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gains_from_trade\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">reaping gains from trade<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3>The Summum Bonum and Pascal\u2019s Mugging<\/h3>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pascal%27s_mugging\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pascal\u2019s Mugging<\/a> \u2013 \u00a0When high expected payoffs make it hard to reason<\/li>\n<li>This comes up in discussions about animal suffering, when activists claim <a href=\"http:\/\/slatestarcodex.com\/2015\/03\/04\/a-series-of-unprincipled-exceptions\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">animals\u2019 capacity to suffer outweighs human suffer by so much<\/a> that our own troubles are a rounding error.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You can listen to\u00a0\u201cFights in Good Faith,\u201d\u00a0my weekly radio program,\u00a0streaming today at 5pm ET and tomorrow (Sun) at 1pm\u00a0\u00a0The episode is now available to download and stream. 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