{"id":11609,"date":"2015-07-14T17:02:23","date_gmt":"2015-07-14T21:02:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/?p=11609"},"modified":"2015-07-14T17:02:23","modified_gmt":"2015-07-14T21:02:23","slug":"a-narrow-win-for-t-h-white-in-the-book-round-of-itt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2015\/07\/a-narrow-win-for-t-h-white-in-the-book-round-of-itt.html","title":{"rendered":"A (Narrow) Win for T.H. White in the Book Round of ITT"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

The first prompt\u00a0in the non-Christian round of the 2015 Ideological Turing Test has a just-barely winner. The Christians mostly fell behind the real non-Christians, but our winner was practically tied with the atheist ranked just ahead, so I\u2019m awarding the win on points. Here\u2019s the winning fake-atheist\u00a0response to \u201cName a book that shaped your moral sensibilities (and talk a little about how) Fiction is fair game.\u201d<\/p>\n

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T.H. White\u2019s\u00a0The Once and Future King<\/em><\/a>. When I was young (e.g. ages 8-12) I read it over and over. Looking back, I see that it was likely the source of my simultaneous cynicism and idealism, regarding both politics and personal relationships. The former, in that much of the plot concerns King Arthur\u2019s attempts to create a form of government that isn\u2019t terribly unjust\u2013he almost succeeds, then it falls apart because it\u2019s still based on force\u2013and this still seems to me like the basic dilemma of the public side of human existence. The latter, in that I sympathized greatly with both Lancelot\u2019s tortured desire for perfection and his (resulting) fascination with inflicting pain on the people he loved most.<\/p>\n

I haven\u2019t read the book for years, but I still think I was lucky to have grown obsessed with it, rather than e.g. The Chronicles of Narnia or Harry Potter. I think TOaFK (despite the ugly acronym) helped me to care more about trying to achieve justice, and to live a serious life, than about seeing the world as somehow already justified, or thinking that all I needed was to feel something special, \u201clove,\u201d in order for everything to turn out for the best.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Sixty-five percent of non-Christians thought that answer was the real deal, and no other non-Christian reply did as well. (Real non-Christians are solid shaded, shamming Christians are faded)<\/p>\n

\"A.2.1\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Our Christian winner offers this self-description:<\/p>\n

A born-n-raised Roman Catholic who attended a Catholic liberal arts university, I\u2019m now getting a PhD (from a secular school) in literature.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Christians also found this player the most plausible fake atheist\u2013this entry ranked second overall, as they saw it:<\/p>\n

\"C.2.1\"<\/a><\/p>\n

One real atheist answer got buried at the bottom when the atheists judged; only 28 percent of the non-Christian judges thought this answer was for real:<\/p>\n

The 48 Laws of Power<\/em><\/a>\u00a0by Robert Greene clarified to me that successful people game the system by hook or crook to get ahead. Then rationalize their moral and intellectual superiority as the cause of their success. Generally the greatest fools and murderous attain power while claiming the mantel of God. Morality is mostly illusion on a path to power.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And I can\u2019t say that I blame them. \u00a0Although this happened to be an honest atheist entry, in a Turing Test I would have also guessed that it was someone strawmanning the other side. \u00a0In fact, I\u00a0did<\/em> guess that \u2014 I went back to check when I was picking answers to be sure I wasn\u2019t pulling from the wrong tab of my spreadsheet.<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/p>\n

This is part of the 2015 Ideological Turing Test series, where Christians and non-Christians test how well they understand one another. \u00a0You can find\u00a0all posts about the 2015 Ideological Turing Test here<\/a>. And you can see all answers to this prompt (and who wrote them)\u00a0here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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