{"id":19,"date":"2011-09-21T17:12:00","date_gmt":"2011-09-21T17:12:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/09\/sexual-responsibility-and-culpability\/"},"modified":"2012-11-14T16:18:03","modified_gmt":"2012-11-14T21:18:03","slug":"sexual-responsibility-and-culpability","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/09\/sexual-responsibility-and-culpability.html","title":{"rendered":"Sexual Responsibility and Culpability"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-tcD1-CT38ao\/TnoXFMGhepI\/AAAAAAAABmM\/CUhBe6TBbHI\/s1600\/BrokenVase.XSmall.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-tcD1-CT38ao\/TnoXFMGhepI\/AAAAAAAABmM\/CUhBe6TBbHI\/s320\/BrokenVase.XSmall.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"212\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Looking through the comments thread for \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.unequally-yoked.com\/2011\/09\/soup-nazi-approach-to-sex.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Soup Nazi Approach to Sex<\/a>\u201d it looks like there were two major subtypes of disagreement with my post. Many commenters wanted to know why men should bear responsibility for a pregnancy when women can make unilateral decisions about whether to bring a child to term. They accused me of enforcing a sexist double standard. I\u2019ll try and get to that topic tomorrow.What I want to address today is the way we conceive of responsibility and culpability for both genders. I saw a lot of comments along these lines:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u201cFor some reason this reminds me a little of conservative arguments about health insurance: \u201cWell, you should have thought of the risks beforehand!\u201d Yes, you should have, but assume that you didn\u2019t. What then?\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.unequally-yoked.com\/2011\/09\/soup-nazi-approach-to-sex.html?showComment=1316187364998#c401836097202211300\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[1]<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>\u201cThis sounds exactly like the \u201cpro-life\u201d response to women who have abortions. Didn\u2019t want a baby? You shouldn\u2019t have had sex. So this argument is ok to use for men, but not women?<br>\n\u2026Anyway, I think the question is a lot more complicated than you want it to be, and your answer makes you sound like a pro-lifer, except you are placing the burden of not having sex on men instead of women.\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.unequally-yoked.com\/2011\/09\/soup-nazi-approach-to-sex.html?showComment=1316188715438#c6915685421839047632\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[2]<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>\u201cAs has been pointed out before, the pro-life arguments against women\u2019s reproductive rights (why don\u2019t you just keep your legs closed?) are exactly the same ones that some women on this thread are using against the men. Hopefully pointing this out will make it easier to see what is wrong with that argument.<br>\nLeah, you have to realize that you are, in fact, making the exact argument pro-lifers make for why abortion should be illegal: if you don\u2019t want the responsibility of a kid (or the burden of a pregnancy) then don\u2019t have sex. The reasons that\u2019s a wrongheaded statement to make to a woman are the same as those why it\u2019s wrong to say to a man.\u201d <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unequally-yoked.com\/2011\/09\/soup-nazi-approach-to-sex.html?showComment=1316440719673#c6761786324307899451\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">[3]<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Let\u2019s take this out of the realm of pregnancy for a second (to avoid some of the abortion side-arguments) and reframe the discussion in terms of STIs. Both people in a relationship can take action to lower their risk of contracting a venereal disease (screening partners, using condoms, getting vaccinated), but something can still go wrong. (Especially when <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guttmacher.org\/pubs\/fb_contr_use.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a significant proportion of people<\/a> who think they\u2019re using condoms correctly are wrong).<\/p>\n<p>Someone can contract a disease, even when they and their partner were doing due diligence, because someone has to get hit with the nasty end of the probability stick. So, in that instance, there\u2019s not really any culpability or blame. Not any more so than if you tripped and skinned your knee. However, even though neither partner is <em>at fault<\/em>, the infection will carry with it a new <em>burden of responsibility<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Best case scenario, the infected partner now has a <em>responsibility<\/em> to him\/herself to go to a doctor and get treated with a short course of antibiotics to clear the problems up completely. Worst case scenario, in the case of HIV\/AIDS, the person now has a chronic disease that they will be <em>responsible<\/em> for managing for the rest of his\/her life. Any chronic infection also entails a new <em>responsibility<\/em> to inform and protect future partners. None of these new responsibilities have anything to do with desert, they exist regardless of the action that brought someone to this point.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/vintagraph.com\/wpa-posters\/health-and-safety-posters\/2378896\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-F2GAycYEKFk\/TnpSrEXmEPI\/AAAAAAAABmQ\/5BBu_P8UXbA\/s320\/health-poster.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"250\" height=\"320\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>If someone wanted to be sexually active but was also unwilling to take even the smallest chance s\/he might contract an STI, I wouldn\u2019t jump straight to \u201cNo sex for you!\u201d (and I\u2019d probably want to have a longer conversation about estimating risk). The person who would provoke my Soup Nazi response would be someone who said, \u201cIf I get an STI, I won\u2019t get treated. It\u2019s not my fault I was infected, so why should my life change?\u201d You can\u2019t opt-out of that responsibility. It has nothing to do with culpability, it\u2019s just playing the hand you\u2019ve been dealt.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, almost no one would make the \u2018not-my-fault\u2019 claim to avoid medical treatment and the duty to disclose to new partners. Most of us have no qualms about accepting treatment for disease, so we\u2019re able to see it as just the next logical step, not an unfairly burdensome responsibility. The trouble is, plenty of people who have sex are profoundly uncomfortable with their three options if conception occurs: an abortion, an orphan, a child you have to parent. But these are the only options on the table, and it\u2019s your responsibility to pick one.<\/p>\n<p>You can have sex and hope that you never have the bad luck to need to make the choice, but, when push comes to shove, those are the options in front of you. If you know you aren\u2019t comfortable with <em>any<\/em> of these three options\u2014you couldn\u2019t handle that responsibility\u2014then you\u2019re back in the \u201cNo sex for you!\u201d group, and, given that the range of options are obvious, I do assign culpability for choosing to place yourself in that situation. If you\u2019re a guy and some of those options are intolerable to you, you have a responsibility to not have sex with women who will choose them or women who you don\u2019t know well enough to estimate their choice.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m a paternalist when it comes to government, so I\u2019m very interested in making <em>all\u00a0<\/em>of these choices less frightening and easier to bear (covering abortion in standard health insurance, better disclosure of adoption options during counseling, a heckuva lot more child care subsidies, maternity and paternity leave, etc). It\u2019s not an individual\u2019s fault that one of the three options is prohibitively difficult due to outside circumstances. But you have to choose based on the options you have, and, if none of them are tenable, \u201cNo sex for you!\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Looking through the comments thread for \u201cSoup Nazi Approach to Sex\u201d it looks like there were two major subtypes of disagreement with my post. Many commenters wanted to know why men should bear responsibility for a pregnancy when women can make unilateral decisions about whether to bring a child to term. 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