{"id":204,"date":"2011-03-02T11:44:00","date_gmt":"2011-03-02T11:44:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/03\/living-on-a-prayer\/"},"modified":"2012-09-24T21:30:23","modified_gmt":"2012-09-25T01:30:23","slug":"living-on-a-prayer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/03\/living-on-a-prayer.html","title":{"rendered":"Living on a Prayer"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-vROiEZYe1WE\/TW3YPl_jeqI\/AAAAAAAABTE\/3r5DEOXSnTI\/s1600\/consent.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/-vROiEZYe1WE\/TW3YPl_jeqI\/AAAAAAAABTE\/3r5DEOXSnTI\/s400\/consent.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"196\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>I really want to reply to Alex Knapp, especially since <a href=\"http:\/\/ordinary-gentlemen.com\/alexknapp\/2011\/03\/01\/necessary-evils-ctd-part-ii\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">he\u2019s already found the time to respond<\/a> to Rust Belt Philosophy\u2019s critique of both me and Knapp, but I\u2019ve been trying to prep for three exams, and two presentations all occurring in the space of two and a half day, so not so much on my end.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m still not up to doing a big post on consequentialism, so I thought I\u2019d share a little of my coursework to tide you over. \u00a0My epidemiology methods class read a well-known paper from 1999 called \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/archinte.ama-assn.org\/cgi\/content\/abstract\/159\/19\/2273\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">A Randomized, Controlled Trial of the Effects of Remote, Intercessory Prayer on Outcomes in Patients Admitted to the Coronary Care Unit<\/a>.\u201d \u00a0And then we had to any problems we had with the study design and what this illustrated about tradeoffs you have to make in research. \u00a0The exercise was instructive and (to punchy, exam-mad me) hilarious, so here are the highlights from my notes for you to read while I keep coding.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>Prayers for patients came from a variety of denominations. \u00a0Did this introduce <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Confounding\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">confounding<\/a>, since God might only be listening to one type of prayer? \u00a0Given the wide range of religious practices, it would be prohibitively expensive to run clinical trials of each prayer tradition\u00a0separately.<\/li>\n<li>Researchers did not specify how to pray, so some people may have prayed much more than others. \u00a0Should researchers have tried to calculate a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dose-response_relationship\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">dose-response relationship<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li>Now here\u2019s my favorite: should researchers be required to obtain <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Informed_consent\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">informed consent<\/a>\u00a0from patients who are being prayed for?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Doctors were worried that telling people that people were praying for them, or even that they might be prayed for would cause patients to assume they were seriously ill, even if the doctor explained it was part of a clinical trial. \u00a0And after all, people pray for sick people with or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/2010\/09\/20\/atheist-christopher-hitchens-skip-prayer-day-honor\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">without their consent<\/a>. \u00a0Do doctors need to obtain consent for a procedure that only exposes patients to risks they are already subject to?The researchers decided consent was not required, since there are \u201cno known risks to receiving intercessory prayer.\u201d \u00a0When ever you see a sentence like that, remember that means a grad student in the lab was tasked to spend a day or two on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">PubMed<\/a> trying to make sure that there\u2019s no contrary result to cite.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And speaking of that, I\u2019m off to the computer lab.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" 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