{"id":226,"date":"2011-02-09T16:30:00","date_gmt":"2011-02-09T16:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/02\/atheism-as-a-proxy-variable\/"},"modified":"2012-09-17T20:09:33","modified_gmt":"2012-09-18T00:09:33","slug":"atheism-as-a-proxy-variable","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/02\/atheism-as-a-proxy-variable.html","title":{"rendered":"Atheism as a Proxy Variable"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_b7Eh98KJ_qI\/TVMH3KYdX_I\/AAAAAAAABQo\/imRsOWPCKIo\/s1600\/sort.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_b7Eh98KJ_qI\/TVMH3KYdX_I\/AAAAAAAABQo\/imRsOWPCKIo\/s320\/sort.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>I have a fun surprise coming down the pipeline as part of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unequally-yoked.com\/2011\/02\/attraction-to-orthodoxy-series.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">my series on G.K. Chesterton<\/a>, but, in the meantime, I wanted to spend a little more time on what it means to be an atheist.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/13116034158087704885\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">March Hare<\/a> wrote in response to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unequally-yoked.com\/2011\/02\/points-for-once-to-pz-myers.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">my praise for P.Z. Myers:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I think that Myers (and Leah\u2019s) broad point is entirely correct, but on the specifics PZ is way off the mark.<\/p>\n<p>Atheists can be rebellious against society, against their parents, against their specific religion, they can be scientifically literate, they can have examined the evidence in great detail or they can just not have thought about it. All these are real reasons for being an atheist but only two of them would pass muster according to Myers.<\/p>\n<p>That is not to say when someone is making their point about why they are an atheist and making points for their philosophy and against religion that anyone else should come along and point out the dictionary definition of atheist.<\/p>\n<p>However, when someone tries to paint me with PZ\u2019s philosophy it is entirely fair to point out that the only thing we have in common is that we don\u2019t believe in god and that fact, in and of itself, does not entail a commonality of morality.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m with Myers on this one. It\u2019s possible (and sometimes necessary) to say \u201cSo and so is believes X but does not have a valid grounding for that belief\u201d or \u201cSo and so calls himself an atheist but his position makes no sense\u201d even without saddling atheism with any moral systems. I can say this as long as I have an epistemology that I think is universally accessible and ought to be universally adopted.<\/p>\n<p>Neither I, nor Myers, nor March Hare is likely to believe \u201chow much a claim will tick off our parents\u201d is a reasonable proxy variable for truth. So why shouldn\u2019t we be comfortable saying that someone who comes to atheism out of a sense of youthful rebellion is <em>wrong<\/em> even if his conclusion happens to be true?<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t promote atheism because I think believing that God does not exist is a good unto itself. I think that, if we want to act morally, we have an obligation to align our beliefs about the physical and metaphysical world with truth as closely as possible. Lazy epistemology anywhere will get in the way of that goal and correcting bad reasoning wherever we find it will help us along.<\/p>\n<p>In the U.S., atheism often <em>is<\/em>\u00a0a decent proxy variable for not falling into some common epistemological follies. \u00a0Because atheists have been on the front lines of the evolution wars, plenty of us have gotten a crash course in scientific empirics and \u00a0the uses and abuses of statistical inferences. \u00a0As a result, I am less suspicious of the epistemology of a self-described atheist than of a self-described evangelical. \u00a0But, when I find logical gaps in either\u2019s epistemology, I\u2019m going to pick a (respectful and constructive) fight.<\/p>\n<p>After all, they vote.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/4256452356987023523-763499220265651758?l=www.unequally-yoked.com\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have a fun surprise coming down the pipeline as part of my series on G.K. Chesterton, but, in the meantime, I wanted to spend a little more time on what it means to be an atheist. March Hare wrote in response to my praise for P.Z. Myers: I think that Myers (and Leah\u2019s) broad [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":127,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,68],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-226","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism","category-epistemologyphilosophy"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Atheism as a Proxy Variable<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I have a fun surprise coming down the pipeline as part of my series on G.K. 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