{"id":23,"date":"2011-09-15T17:47:00","date_gmt":"2011-09-15T17:47:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/09\/why-bother-genemodding\/"},"modified":"2012-11-14T16:12:37","modified_gmt":"2012-11-14T21:12:37","slug":"why-bother-genemodding","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/09\/why-bother-genemodding.html","title":{"rendered":"Why Bother Genemodding?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-5jPH7uInjAo\/TnJv5GbcnKI\/AAAAAAAABl0\/j4UIuashcDk\/s1600\/sharonthewirelessaccessdy1.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-5jPH7uInjAo\/TnJv5GbcnKI\/AAAAAAAABl0\/j4UIuashcDk\/s400\/sharonthewirelessaccessdy1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"226\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Flesh to fiber-optic interface from <em>Battlestar Galactica<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Alex Knapp likes to kick around transhumanist problems at Forbes, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/alexknapp\/2011\/09\/15\/is-ethical-human-genetic-enhancement-possible\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">he\u2019s concluded<\/a> genetic engineering will almost certainly result in \u201chorrific moral atrocities.\u201d Simply put:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The \u201cfailed prototypes\u201d are people. People who have to grow up and live with the consequences of the <em>inevitable mistakes<\/em> that will be made in the process of experimenting. Assuming, of course, they can physically live with those consequences at all.<\/p>\n<p>And there\u2019s the problem. When you get right down to it, I do not see any way to perform experiments involving signficant genetic enhancements that don\u2019t end in the suffering of a human being. A human being whose DNA was altered without consent, who is participating in a scientific experiment without consent, and is, basically, being born into slavery, with their sole purpose in life being a stepping stone to making <em>other<\/em> people \u201cbetter.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019m mostly in agreement with Knapp, so let me quickly get to where we diverge. I think he\u2019s selling short the extent to which many fetuses, children, and adults end up in experiments they didn\u2019t consent to that are meant for their own good. No fetus signed a waiver to be in a study of folic acid supplements, but they were hardly \u2018born into slavery\u2019 or reduced to a mere means as a result. And after birth, you can end up in a poorly run experiment, with potential for long term harm every time your state overhauls its school curriculum or changes the food safety standards. Let\u2019s not inflate the threat-to-personhood danger just because these environmental changes are more cutting edge.<\/p>\n<p>That being said, I\u2019m in agreement that DNA-tweaking is dead on arrival. Genetic engineering is pretty much guaranteed to wind up in the middle of the abortion debate, since it\u2019s a lot easier to select embryos than alter them. That issue taboos the whole subject for a significant proportion of the population. And pro-choicers like me still have plenty of reasons to be leery of the whole endeavor. As Knapp points out, any pre-birth enhancements tend to run into some serious problems with consent. We make plenty of choices that alter a baby\u2019s biology, but this isn\u2019t exactly folic acid supplements. There\u2019s no strong consensus about what kind of enhancements are desirable or necessary, so there\u2019s no way to argue that the person-to-be tacitly consents. And, historically, this kind of consensus isn\u2019t all too trustworthy, anyway (cf. the practice of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2006\/09\/24\/magazine\/24intersexkids.html?pagewanted=all\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">neo-natal genital surgery for intersex infants<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Absent a profound shift in expectations for our physical hardware, these objections are enough to kibosh any plan for human genetic engineering. And that\u2019s fine by me, since there\u2019s no reason transhumanists should have picked that as a goal to begin with. Focusing the conversation there is a way to push transhumanist goals into a far-distant future. Definitionally, you\u2019re taking all the pressure off our generation, since, absent some really clever virus engineering, there\u2019s no way we can use this tool to modify ourselves.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-f5XUaotJCn4\/TnJwh2lqwTI\/AAAAAAAABl4\/lalbftwnvWc\/s1600\/fingerball_f.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-f5XUaotJCn4\/TnJwh2lqwTI\/AAAAAAAABl4\/lalbftwnvWc\/s320\/fingerball_f.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"247\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>But aspiring body hackers <em>do<\/em> have options right now. The two I\u2019m most interested in assimilating are a <a href=\"http:\/\/sensebridge.net\/projects\/northpaw\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">constant awareness of compass directions<\/a>, and, subsequently, better navigational instincts, and the ability to sense electromagnetic fields (though I\u2019d be going the <a href=\"http:\/\/hypatia.ca\/2010\/06\/magnetic-fingernails\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">magnets-in-nail-polish<\/a> route, and steering clear of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/threatlevel\/2010\/12\/transcending-the-human-diy-style\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">surgical implants<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>If those aren\u2019t the augmentations you want, then start trying to put together a different mechanical\/biological kludge. Just try and do some thinking about what you actually want to <em>be<\/em>, not what kind of thing is cool at parties. Levitation or flight <em>sound<\/em> cool, but I\u2019m better served by the exertion of walking on a day-to-day basis, and when I <em>do<\/em> need to fly, I have this wacky trick called <em>buying plane tickets<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Does that not seem cool and futuristic enough? Tough beans. Transhumanism is more about problem-solving than aesthetics, and plenty of currently existing tech can solve my problems even if it doesn\u2019t meld with my wetware. But most people think that physical tech somehow doesn\u2019t count and gadgets like my iPhone or my laptop (both of which radically change how I access, store, and process information, and then go on to give me totally new kinds of ways to act in the world) have nothing to do with the transhumanist project.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/xkcd.com\/644\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/imgs.xkcd.com\/comics\/surgery.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"128\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>The weird thing is that even when we want to do something as radical as genetic engineering, we still want it to feel natural, smoothly and inextricably bound to us. An inborn sense of direction seems more real than training with the Northstar anklet. Farther along the spectrum, a surgical implant must be more a part of us than a magnet that\u2019s only glued on.<\/p>\n<p>One of my transhumanism hobbyhorses is trying to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unequally-yoked.com\/2011\/02\/sorry-did-someone-say-transhumanism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">blur the definition of the body<\/a> and stop privileging the squishy bits that happen to be attached to us at birth. Another one is making war on any infatuation with the \u2018natural\u2019 or \u2018organic\u2019 generally. I\u2019ll worry about the aesthetics of an interface after I\u2019ve got something I can <em>use<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and don\u2019t forget that some of the best bang for your buck transhumanism around is policing cruft and biases in your own reasoning. <a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Cognitive hacking<\/a> is still hacking, even if it doesn\u2019t get to incorporate any cool-looking LEDs.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/4256452356987023523-468935066163954266?l=www.unequally-yoked.com\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Flesh to fiber-optic interface from Battlestar Galactica Alex Knapp likes to kick around transhumanist problems at Forbes, and he\u2019s concluded genetic engineering will almost certainly result in \u201chorrific moral atrocities.\u201d Simply put: The \u201cfailed prototypes\u201d are people. 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