{"id":2591,"date":"2012-04-08T09:31:11","date_gmt":"2012-04-08T13:31:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/?p=2591"},"modified":"2012-12-30T01:05:29","modified_gmt":"2012-12-30T06:05:29","slug":"which-doctrines-must-a-catholic-assent-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2012\/04\/which-doctrines-must-a-catholic-assent-to.html","title":{"rendered":"Which doctrines must a Catholic assent to?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" title=\"Confirmation at Easter Vigil\" src=\"https:\/\/torbertmedia.com\/psucatholic\/wp-content\/uploads\/vigil_06-25cc.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\"><\/p>\n<p>At the Easter Vigil Mass last night, the candidates for confirmation made the following profession of faith:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I believe and profess all that the holy Catholic Church believes, teaches, and proclaims to be revealed by God.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Which is admirably concise, but left me more curious about commas than the Second Amendement. \u00a0Are they saying they believe that [all that the holy Catholic Church believes, teaches, and proclaims] <em>is<\/em> [revealed by God]. \u00a0Or are they simply stating that they believe and profess all things that [the holy Catholic Church believes, teaches, and proclaims] states are [revealed by God]. \u00a0Let me unpack the distinction, so you all can tell me if it exists.<\/p>\n<p>It seems like the Church has some precepts that are foundational (Jesus is the Son of God, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Mark%2012:30&amp;version=KJV\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">two greatest commandments<\/a> are \u201cLord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.\u201d and \u201cLove your neighbor as yourself\u201d, etc). Then it has another set of propositions which are about the <em>applications <\/em>and <em>implications<\/em> of these core beliefs. \u00a0Since I\u2019m a math nerd, I might label them <em>axioms<\/em> and <em>theorems<\/em>. \u00a0Axioms must be accepted as true; they\u2019re what gives structure to the entire system. \u00a0Theorems can be logically derived from axioms, but it\u2019s possible for someone to be mistaken about whether a theorem is true, so the proofs need to be carefully examined.<\/p>\n<p>The great commandment (or axiom) alone doesn\u2019t tell us how to fulfil it; we need other data in order to learn how to follow it. \u00a0For example, Catholics may all assent to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Just_war_theory\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Just War theory<\/a>, and still disagree about whether a <em>particular<\/em> war makes the cut. \u00a0They all share the axiom, but they are generating different theorems when they try to apply the core belief.<\/p>\n<p>I just recently finished reading Peter Brown\u2019s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0231144075\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=unequyoked-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0231144075\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Body and Society: Men, Women, and Sexual Renunciation in Early Christianity<\/a><\/em> and one of the biggest things I took away is that Christian thinkers have managed to derive a lot of contradictory theorems about proper sexual conduct from some of the shared axioms about respect for human persons. \u00a0In the book, Brown cites St. Jerome as teaching that the blood of martyrdom <em>might<\/em> be sufficient to wipe out the shame of marriage, but better not to marry at all. \u00a0This kind of opinion was common enough that St. Augustine wrote a letter to a group of nuns to urge them not to view married women as hopelessly compromised.<\/p>\n<p>Jerome\u2019s vehemence and the widespread desire to be\u00a0eunuchs\u00a0for the Kingdom that Brown\u00a0catalogues in the early church bear little resemblance to the marriage-mindedness of the contemporary Catholic Church. \u00a0I assume there have been no new axioms in the intervening centuries, but the theorems the church has derived have changed. \u00a0(And reading Augustine\u2019s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1449595669\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=unequyoked-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1449595669\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Confessions<\/a><\/em>, I ran across another theorem-level change: the Church no longer endorses the idea that people should delay baptism because their sins after baptism will be judged more harshly).<\/p>\n<p>So where does that leave a Catholic who agrees with the axioms but thinks certain theorems are wrongly derived or just feels agnostic about some of the stated implications. \u00a0I could certainly imagine this coming up with regard to the Church\u2019s view on homosexuality, where the data available to us have changed pretty dramatically in the last fifty years. \u00a0Could such a doubting Catholic honestly make the profession of faith that Confirmation demands?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At the Easter Vigil Mass last night, the candidates for confirmation made the following profession of faith: I believe and profess all that the holy Catholic Church believes, teaches, and proclaims to be revealed by God. 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