{"id":3480,"date":"2012-06-11T13:05:16","date_gmt":"2012-06-11T17:05:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/?p=3480"},"modified":"2013-01-16T01:08:31","modified_gmt":"2013-01-16T06:08:31","slug":"lets-assume-gay-marriages-were-really-worse-blogathon-512","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2012\/06\/lets-assume-gay-marriages-were-really-worse-blogathon-512.html","title":{"rendered":"Let&#8217;s assume gay marriages were really worse&#8230; [Blogathon 5\/12]"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>This post is number five of twelve for the Secular Student Alliance Blogathon. \u00a0I\u2019m responding to comments in the \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2012\/05\/go-ahead-tell-me-whats-wrong-with-homosexuality.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Go Ahead, Tell Me What\u2019s Wrong with Homosexuality<\/a>\u201d thread all day. \u00a0You can read <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2012\/06\/why-would-christians-support-the-secular-students-alliance.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">an explanation of the Blogathon and a pitch for donations (even if you\u2019re religious) here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.secularstudents.org\/ssaweek\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3464\" title=\"blogathon\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/84\/2012\/06\/blogathon1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"351\" height=\"128\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This point came up a couple of times during the thread, so there\u2019s not any specific comment I want to link back to. Some of the Christians wanted to know if gay marriages actually turned out to be<em> worse<\/em> on average than straight marriages (maybe proven by fixing the statistical and methodological problems in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2012\/06\/this-is-why-pragmatism-isnt-an-ethical-system-blogathon-112.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Blogathon post one<\/a>, or maybe a reference to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2011\/07\/03\/magazine\/infidelity-will-keep-us-together.html?pagewanted=all\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dan Savage\u2019s monagam-<em>ish<\/em> model<\/a>), would we withdraw our support? \u00a0For the sake of the gays themselves as much as everyone else?<\/p>\n<p>There are two kinds of responses to this question: first, we can follow <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2012\/05\/go-ahead-tell-me-whats-wrong-with-homosexuality.html#comment-20103\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">the example of Alex<\/a>, and ask whether other classes of people should be barred from posting banns, because their\u00a0ethnic, socio-economic, or data-mining result group has a poor track record in matrimony. \u00a0Most of us would say no.<\/p>\n<p>But there\u2019s another argument to make. \u00a0The commenters are claiming that if gay marriages turn out worse that straight marriages, we should keep them illegal. \u00a0That\u2019s not really the right comparison to make. \u00a0What we want to do is contrast outcomes for married same-sex partners and same-sex couples who would <em>like<\/em> to get married by cannot. \u00a0That way, we\u2019re actually approximating the marginal impact of gay marriage on gays.<\/p>\n<p>Evelyn Waugh is kind of on my side for methodological point here. \u00a0In what may be an apocryphal story, he was taken to task for his behavior by a fellow guest at a dinner party who asked how he could be so rude and call himself a Catholic. \u00a0Waugh replied: \u201cImagine how insufferable I would be if I were <em>not<\/em> a Catholic!\u201d<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This post is number five of twelve for the Secular Student Alliance Blogathon. \u00a0I\u2019m responding to comments in the \u201cGo Ahead, Tell Me What\u2019s Wrong with Homosexuality\u201d thread all day. \u00a0You can read an explanation of the Blogathon and a pitch for donations (even if you\u2019re religious) here. \u00a0 This point came up a couple [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":127,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[196],"tags":[171,85,11],"class_list":["post-3480","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-marriage-2","tag-blogathon","tag-gay-marriage","tag-lgbt"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Let&#039;s assume gay marriages were really worse... 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