{"id":6172,"date":"2012-12-06T15:47:56","date_gmt":"2012-12-06T20:47:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/?p=6172"},"modified":"2012-12-06T18:30:45","modified_gmt":"2012-12-06T23:30:45","slug":"can-you-cyrano-de-bergerac-your-moral-philosophy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2012\/12\/can-you-cyrano-de-bergerac-your-moral-philosophy.html","title":{"rendered":"Can you Cyrano de Bergerac your moral philosophy?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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Yesterday<\/a>, I linked to Luke Muelhauser\u2019s commentary on the inability of philosophers to come to consensus<\/a>. \u00a0He\u2019s continued on the topic, proposing a\u00a0curriculum\u00a0for building better philosophers in \u201cTrain Philosophers with Pearl and Kahneman, not Plato and Kant<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n

His list of recommended topics include Bayesian statistics, machine learning, mathematical logic, game theory, cognitive neuroscience, etc. \u00a0(Go to the link to see his syllabus). \u00a0When you look over all the prerequisites, you can see why Luke concludes<\/a>, \u201cI do<\/em> think philosophy should be a Highly Advanced subject of study that requires lots of prior training in maths and the sciences, like string theory but hopefully more productive.\u201d<\/p>\n

Luke\u2019s approach made for a really interesting contrast with a recent post on Just Thomism<\/a>:<\/p>\n

[T]he fact is that settled questions involve our indifference to finding out the answers for ourselves. To the extent that some question is settled, we\u2019re usually uninterested in going back and seeing the arguments for it, even when the arguments are demonstrative. But philosophy deals with the sort of questions that individuals want to answer for themselves \u2013 even where philosophy has demonstrations to give it still has to give them entirely from the beginning to each person in each new generation. Fundamental questions about God or evil or human goodness or the human mind will never be settled simply because there is something inhuman in thinking we could settle them in such a way that subsequent generations would have to take our answers for granted as opposed to working out the whole problem from the beginning for themselves.<\/p>\n

Philosophy can\u2019t ever advance because the whole point of philosophy is that everyone gets to start at the beginning, so far as this is possible. There is still a role for discipleship and moving through a pre-determined order of questioning, and by my own lights there are even some pretty-much-settled philosophical questions, but ultimately philosophy is about getting to the bottom of things for yourself, and so it is not supposed to<\/em> progress much farther than the progress that one person can make in his own lifetime.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And a commenter on LessWrong<\/a> hit on a similar point:<\/p>\n

[I]t would be greatly beneficial if science were kept secret. It would be wonderful if students had the opportunity to make scientific discoveries on their own, and being trained to think that way would greatly advance the rate of scientific progress. Making a scientific breakthrough would be something a practicing scientist would be used to, rather than something that happens once a generation, and so it would happen more reliably. Rather than having science textbooks, students could start with old (wrong) science textbooks or just looking at the world, and they\u2019d have to make all their own mistakes along the way to see what making a breakthrough really involves.<\/p>\n

This is how Philosophy is already taught! While many philosophers have opinions on what Philosophical questions have already been settled, they do not put forth their opinions straightforwardly to undergrads. Rather, students are expected to read the original works and figure out for themselves what\u2019s wrong with them.<\/p>\n

For example, students might learn about the debate between Realism and Nominalism, and then be expected to write a paper about which one they think is correct (or neither). Sure, we could just tell them the entire debate was confused, but then we won\u2019t be training future philosophers in the same way we would like to train future scientists. The students should be able to work out for themselves what the problems were, so that they will be able to make philosophical breakthroughs in the future.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Part of what all these blockquotes are dancing around is whether it\u2019s important for everyone to know how to\u00a0practise<\/em> philosophy, or whether we just need proficient philosophers to suss out the answers more efficiently and conclusively and then pass the answers back to us. \u00a0When NASA announces that they found perchlorates on Mars<\/a>, I don\u2019t double check their work or their interpretation. \u00a0I\u2019m not levelled up enough to do that.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t need to understand calculus to catch a ball (though as it happens, I\u2019m better at the former than the latter). \u00a0I wouldn\u2019t need do more than addition to be able to avoid being fleeced if all I had to do was make change, but, in an age of collateralized debt obligations<\/a>, I either need to learn a lot about risk really fast, or I need to set up a pretty trustworthy, reliable gate keeper. \u00a0Since we have reason to suspect<\/a> (for theological or purely empirical reasons) that our moral reasoning still has a few bugs to work out, don\u2019t we need a class of philosopher-regulators?<\/p>\n

But it\u2019s a little weirder to say that I\u2019m comfortable deferring my understanding of the good life to a class of academics, even Kahneman-reading academics. \u00a0First of all,\u00a0as I mentioned<\/a>\u00a0when discussing\u00a0Thinking Fast and Slow<\/em><\/a>, Kahneman\u2019s work can identify inconsistencies in our reasoning without telling us which element to jettison. \u00a0But the biggest objection isn\u2019t that professional philosophers aren\u2019t good\u00a0enough<\/em> at telling us the answers; it\u2019s that we feel a particular duty to be fluent in these answers ourselves.<\/p>\n

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\u201cYou don\u2019t need me after all? Ok, I\u2019ll go work on some more quips\u201d<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

But, no one (except sometimes me) says that learning math is necessary to build character. \u00a0Learning math is part of having a more accurate picture of the world, and that\u2019s awesome. \u00a0But it doesn\u2019t tell you what to do with your data. \u00a0That falls into the realm of practical wisdom (what Aristotle called\u00a0phronesis<\/a><\/em>). \u00a0And developing phronesis<\/em> isn\u2019t the kind of thing you want to outsource, anymore than you\u2019d like to turn over your relationship with your spouse to a data-mining algorithm that was better than you at predicting what response in a conversation would make zer love you most.<\/p>\n

A virtue ethicist wants to\u00a0become<\/em> the good person, not just look up what the good person would do and then do it. \u00a0That means we need to sharpen our moral perception just as we might strengthen muscles. \u00a0We can\u2019t be like a student plugging formulas into a calculator without an idea of how they work conceptually. \u00a0Otherwise, we\u2019re not becoming better people; we\u2019re just giving up our moral agency.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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