{"id":7875,"date":"2013-08-27T13:32:18","date_gmt":"2013-08-27T17:32:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/?p=7875"},"modified":"2013-08-27T13:32:18","modified_gmt":"2013-08-27T17:32:18","slug":"i-must-not-tell-lies","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2013\/08\/i-must-not-tell-lies.html","title":{"rendered":"“I Must Not Tell Lies”"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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Over at Strange Notions, I joined\u00a0Deacon Jim Russell (a Catholic radio speaker<\/a>)and James Croft (who\u00a0blogs in the Patheos Atheist channel<\/a>) for a symposium on the ethics of lying. \u00a0Deacon Jim kicked off the conversation with \u201cLying and Truth-Telling: A Question for Catholics and Atheists.\u201d<\/a> \u00a0He explained that Catholics disagreed about whether a lie is only sinful if the target has a right to the truth. \u00a0Then, in James Croft\u2019s \u201cThe Ethics of Lying: One Humanist\u2019s View,\u201d<\/a>\u00a0he took a pragmatic approach to lying (which\u00a0is<\/em> ethical if you\u2019re a consequentialist).<\/p>\n

And then I turned up with \u201cInterfering with the Eschaton: Why Lying Is Wrong.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0Here\u2019s an excerpt:<\/p>\n

Lying to save a life is a bit like concussing the Gestapo officer at the door.\u00a0It\u2019s a solution, and it may be the best of a set of bad options, but there\u2019s a wound involved. A sin is a sin, even if the outcome was, on net, good from a consequentialist perspective. You still breached a duty or ruptured the relationship you ought to have with the officer at the door. The fact that you\u2019re lying is a cue that something has gone wrong, whether upstream of your present moment in time or in this instant\u2026<\/p>\n

I like to think of lying (actively or passively) as a special case of a general problem.\u00a0In herYoung Wizards<\/a><\/em>\u00a0series, Diane Duane would call it being pro-entropy. I might call it interfering with the eschaton. The\u00a0telos<\/em>\u00a0of humanity is to be healed of all divisions. The wounds we have inflicted on ourselves or on others will be closed up, and it will be possible to be wholly united with each other and with God. Lying to someone is\u00a0creating<\/em>\u00a0distance between my target and the world-as-it-is. And I\u2019m deepening the distance between myself and the person I am instrumentalizing.<\/p>\n

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