{"id":945,"date":"2011-11-09T12:29:01","date_gmt":"2011-11-09T17:29:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/?p=945"},"modified":"2012-11-22T23:49:43","modified_gmt":"2012-11-23T04:49:43","slug":"more-on-the-damnably-foolish-virgins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/unequallyyoked\/2011\/11\/more-on-the-damnably-foolish-virgins.html","title":{"rendered":"More on the Damnably Foolish Virgins"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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UPDATE: there are Harry Potter spoilers in the comments section. \u00a0If this is a problem for you, don\u2019t read my reply to Christian H or anything that follows.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thanks a lot to everyone who weighed in with exegesis of the parable of the ten virgins<\/a>. \u00a0More perpectives and references are quite welcome. \u00a0Several people said it was impossible (physically and metaphorically) for the wise virgins to save the foolhardy ones; no mortal can fully redeem another person. \u00a0A number of people took this as a jumping off point to talk about the limits of self-sacrifice. \u00a0dbp thought the lesson might be<\/a>:<\/p>\n

People should always, first and foremost, be concerned with maintaining their own holiness, even if it comes at the cost of not trying to make others more holy.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is a very interesting proposition, and summons up for me both C.S. Lewis\u2019s The Great Divorce<\/a><\/em> and the semi-pagan tradition of sin-eaters. \u00a0In\u00a0Lewis\u2019s meditiation on Heaven and Hell, he tries to explain how the saved can be perfectly happy, even while their loved ones remain in hell. In the chapter of the Lady, the Dwarf, and the Tragedian, a saintly woman rebukes the shade of her earthly lover:<\/p>\n

Stop it. Stop\u2026 using pity, other people\u2019s pity, in the wrong way. Pity was meant to be a spur that drives joy to help misery. But it can be used the wrong way round. It can be used for a kind of blackmailing. Those who choose misery can hold joy up to ransom, by pity\u2026<\/p>\n

Did you think joy was created to live always under that threat? Always defenceless against those who would rather be miserable than have their self-will crossed? \u2026You made yourself really wretched. That you can still do. But you can no longer communicate your wretchedness. Everything becomes more and more itself. Here is joy that cannot be shaken. Our light can swallow up your darkness: but your darkness cannot now infect our light. No, no, no. Come to us. We will not go to you.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

So perhaps the idea here is that the wise virgins are incapable of compromising their light for the sake of those who were unprepared, because the unrighteous are not permitted to endanger the joy of the righteous. \u00a0Lewis presents a much stronger formulation of this idea: in heaven, it is impossible<\/em> for the foolish to diminish the wise. \u00a0On earth, and in the parable, the principle seems closer to the lifeguard rule: you can\u2019t put yourself in serious danger to save a drowning person.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s the exact opposite of the 19th century tradition of sin-eaters<\/a> in England and Wales. \u00a0Sin-eaters took on the burden of a dying person\u2019s sins by eating a crust of bread that was passed to them over the body, readying the patient for heaven. \u00a0The practice died out (and was never officially sanctioned) but you can spot it\u2019s modern analogues anytime someone talks about \u201chaving the courage to get our hands dirty.\u201d \u00a0It\u2019s the spirit of a revolutionary who seeks to bring about a new world that would abhor the things he did to achieve it.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s easy to reject these choices in the abstract, but if you took personal purity as the highest good, it\u2019s hard to avoid becoming a hermit. \u00a0At the very least, I imagine rejecting sin-eating might make it hard to sustain any kind of Christian Just War theory. \u00a0How could preserving the physical and temporal well-being of yourself and others trump the danger of training yourself to look at another human through gunsights<\/a>?<\/p>\n

What kind of schema do you use to decide when you\u2019re getting in too deep? \u00a0I tend to use pretty parsimonious weighting (after all, one of the perils of being an atheist is that there\u2019s no supernatural force to heal you when you break). \u00a0For Christians, does your faith lead you to be more reckless\/profligate\/trusting when it looks like helping someone else out of the hole could endanger your soul?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

UPDATE: there are Harry Potter spoilers in the comments section. \u00a0If this is a problem for you, don\u2019t read my reply to Christian H or anything that follows. 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