{"id":862,"date":"2012-07-09T09:30:37","date_gmt":"2012-07-09T15:30:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/whatgodwantsforyourlife\/?p=862"},"modified":"2012-07-09T09:30:37","modified_gmt":"2012-07-09T15:30:37","slug":"mary-men-and-women","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/whatgodwantsforyourlife\/2012\/07\/mary-men-and-women\/","title":{"rendered":"Mary, Men, and Women"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/174\/2012\/07\/Mary.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-864\" title=\"Mary\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/174\/2012\/07\/Mary.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"146\" height=\"149\"><\/a>Poor Mary.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not like being the Christ bearer wasn\u2019t hard enough.\u00a0 She has to tolerate our deeply mixed motives for loving her.<\/p>\n<p>For men, among others, it\u2019s the need of a mother.\u00a0 For women she\u2019s a rallying point for women\u2019s rights and empowerment.<\/p>\n<p>There are arguments to be made for both points of view, but she was and is so much more.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s not a lot to go on in the Gospels and it\u2019s hard to know how much another version of projected needs were already at work in the first telling of the story, but what a poignant mix of faith, courage, love, confusion, fear, sorrow, despair, and unflinching devotion.\u00a0 And what a very different starting point if we take that picture seriously: the work and Kingdom of God.<\/p>\n<p>Makes you think that as an intercessor she probably has more in mind for us than a mommy and equal rights \u2014 proving yet again that what we want and what we need is never quite the same thing.<\/p>\n<p>The good news is: what a woman.\u00a0 A Jesuit friend of mine observes: \u201cWhen a door closes, Mary kicks out a window.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Poor Mary. It\u2019s not like being the Christ bearer wasn\u2019t hard enough.\u00a0 She has to tolerate our deeply mixed motives for loving her. For men, among others, it\u2019s the need of a mother.\u00a0 For women she\u2019s a rallying point for women\u2019s rights and empowerment. There are arguments to be made for both points of view, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":240,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[52,53,44,54],"class_list":["post-862","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-mary","tag-mother-of-jesus","tag-prayer-2","tag-the-kingdom-of-god"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Mary, Men, and Women<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Poor Mary. 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