{"id":1294,"date":"2012-10-28T11:03:52","date_gmt":"2012-10-28T17:03:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/?p=1294"},"modified":"2012-10-28T11:03:52","modified_gmt":"2012-10-28T17:03:52","slug":"its-not-so-easy-the-apprenticeship-model-for-zen-training","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2012\/10\/its-not-so-easy-the-apprenticeship-model-for-zen-training.html","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s Not So Easy: The Apprenticeship Model for Zen Training"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/88\/2012\/10\/Picture-13.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-1297\" title=\"Picture 13\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/88\/2012\/10\/Picture-13-300x203.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"203\"><\/a>During a sesshin dokusan in 1981, after practicing with Katagiri Roshi for three or four years, I asked him if he\u2019d ordain me.<\/p>\n<p>During this period, I\u2019d been living a few blocks from the Minnesota Zen Center and like my fellow committed students, I attended most morning zazen sessions, 5am \u2013 7am (including a short service) and evening zazen, 7:30pm \u2013 9pm.<\/p>\n<p>Roshi gave a talk every Wednesday night on a sutra or a koan, usually as part of a long series, so I didn\u2019t miss many of them. We also had an extended day on Saturdays, beginning as usual at 5am but then including a general talk to the larger community, work, lunch and more work, usually ending about 4pm.<\/p>\n<p>Once a month we had sesshin, usually just the weekend but four times a year we sat for seven days. Twice a year we had 100-day training periods that included a student talk that bumped back the start time to 4:30am, Monday \u2013 Saturdays and added a training talk by Roshi on Monday evenings. Sesshin talks and Monday evening practice period talks were almost always about Dogen\u2019s <em>Shobogenzo<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>We lived a quasi-monastic life, probably sitting as much or more than many monastics, an extreme sport version of Zen training.<\/p>\n<p>We also got a country monastery going during this period and had practice periods there, starting in 1983, that ranged from six to eight weeks, usually twice a year.<\/p>\n<p>Except for those practice periods and a few trips here and there to train, I worked most of this time as a teacher in a juvenile detention center, forty hours a week. I did this for thirteen years until Roshi\u2019s death in 1990. Some of my peers had trained like this with Roshi for eighteen years.<\/p>\n<p>The spirit of this training is expressed by Katagiri Roshi in this way:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe experience of enlightenment is important for us, but it is not enough. Again and again that enlightenment must become more profound, until it penetrates our skin, muscle, and bone.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I mention this not so much to pat myself on the back \u2013 my arm got sore a while ago and I mostly quit that \u2013 but as an alternate training model to what\u2019s being kicked around in Soto circles these days, let alone in some mindfulness circles where walking in the park, breathing and smiling, is regarded as the be-all and end-all of the buddhadharma.<\/p>\n<p>At best, it looks to me like most Zen training models are directed at producing ministers to lead communities (tertiary in my training). At worst, much of what is offered as mindfulness is an utter trivialization of the subtle truth of the buddhadharma.<\/p>\n<p>The \u201cWhy?\u201d for Katagiri Roshi was something like this: \u201cThe subtle truth of the buddhadharma is so important for future generations that we\u2019re practicing with our hair on fire to pass it on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s the mission that I signed on for when Roshi chose me as one of his successors.<\/p>\n<p>Roshi trained us to sit through it all by sitting through it all with us. Sitting with someone who was deeply settled in zazen is really different from sitting on one\u2019s own.<\/p>\n<p>Roshi offered dharma inquiry with <em>Shobogenzo<\/em>, koan, and sutra as the inspiration and it continues to strike me as really quite extraordinary. Studying the dharma with someone with an eye for dharma is quite a different activity from reading <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Buddhist<\/a> books on one\u2019s own.<\/p>\n<p>We used the traditional Soto forms of practice and yet Roshi stressed that the point was not to adopt esoteric mystical stuff, but through our dharma practice to embody birth-and-death deep reflection so that we could offer a path of deep reflection for others, making a contribution to humans in the rough times ahead.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I\u2019m not saying that he succeeded, because that remains to be seen. And I\u2019m not saying he was perfect, because he wasn\u2019t. We\u2019ve all got our issues and he sure had his share \u2013 as do I. Years of intensive training left him a flawed human being. Sometimes radiantly so. Sometimes painfully so.<\/p>\n<p>What I am saying is that my study with Katagiri Roshi was an apprenticeship, learned mostly through the body. Body time \u2013 sitting, working, living, practicing and studying together \u2013 was the single most important factor. Intimacy is the life-blood of this process, whether the teacher is into shikantaza or koan, both or neither. It is an intimacy that begins with the teacher-student relationship and opens to receive the 10,000 things.<\/p>\n<p>I believe that apprenticeship Zen is the best way to learn Zen so it is the apprenticeship model that I offer.\u00a0This training relies much more on intuitive processes than on a professional check-off system.<\/p>\n<p>A word of caution: there are vulnerabilities\u00a0for all parties in this way of training. To name just a few, it is difficult for a student to find a teacher with whom they sense affinity. It is difficult for a teacher also to find students who are compatible and capable. A student can put themselves down (or up). A teacher can put themselves up (or down). The whole thing can sometimes get carried way off track into a personality cult. An enormous investment of oneself is necessary and it isn\u2019t a safe thing to do.<\/p>\n<p>But then life isn\u2019t safe either as it usually ends in a surprisingly untimely death.<\/p>\n<p>Apprenticeships are also not convenient in our contemporary world, given the amount of body time that seems necessary for authentic training. The physical plant that is optimal for this kind of training is hard to come by and the compromises made to support the apprenticeship model may sabotage the heart of it.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, I\u2019ve learned since then from others who\u2019ve had this kind of training that apprenticeships in general often don\u2019t feel good. Certainly, apprenticing with Roshi often didn\u2019t feel good. A lot of the time, apprenticing with Roshi was boring. He rarely said a kind word to me and I often felt like there was something important that I wasn\u2019t getting or that I should be doing. Sometimes he was bitingly critical of me. Some of that was very helpful.<\/p>\n<p>This is a challenge particularly in our culture that stresses feeling good as the most important thing. I\u2019m with Leonard Cohen on this one: \u201cI don\u2019t trust my inner feelings, inner feelings come and go.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When I asked Roshi to ordain me, the words I chose were, \u201cI want to be your disciple.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t really know what I was saying. I meant that I wanted to be a Zen priest, because that seemed like the best way to study with him, but he probably heard that I wanted to be his successor. In any case, I didn\u2019t know what being a Zen priest would mean. Nothing was spelled out in advance and there were no guarantees. Look, put your body in it and learn was the training method.<\/p>\n<p>Roshi sat silently \u2013 and this guy could really really shut up \u2013 for what seemed like at least several minutes. Then he gruffly blurted, \u201cIt\u2019s not so easy, anyway.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He said a lot there. I\u2019ve found that \u201cnot so easy\u201d is unavoidably important.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>During a sesshin dokusan in 1981, after practicing with Katagiri Roshi for three or four years, I asked him if he\u2019d ordain me. 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