{"id":18,"date":"2011-10-22T10:44:00","date_gmt":"2011-10-22T10:44:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2011\/10\/the-finger-pointing-to-the-moon-way-seeking-mind\/"},"modified":"2011-10-22T10:44:00","modified_gmt":"2011-10-22T10:44:00","slug":"the-finger-pointing-to-the-moon-way-seeking-mind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2011\/10\/the-finger-pointing-to-the-moon-way-seeking-mind.html","title":{"rendered":"The Finger Pointing to the Moon: Way Seeking Mind"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-OuEChzezIic\/TqLiXeOYGoI\/AAAAAAAABtw\/qj8wnoFZHc0\/s1600\/finger-to-moon.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"320\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-OuEChzezIic\/TqLiXeOYGoI\/AAAAAAAABtw\/qj8wnoFZHc0\/s320\/finger-to-moon.png\" width=\"320\"><\/a><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">We started the introductory class at <a href=\"http:\/\/drishtiyogamn.blogspot.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dhristi Yoga<\/a> in White Bear on Thursday. While listening to what brought people to the class and then reflecting on what we offered, what emerged for me freshly is that the most important thing is really not telling people <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">the point of Zen, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">the posture of sitting, or about developing an open-hearted friendliness for for all of our experience.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">Most important (and seemingly rare) is the way-seeking mind expressed by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Crow-No-Mouth-Fifteenth-Century\/dp\/1556591527\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1319297782&amp;sr=8-1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ikkyu<\/a> like this:<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><i><span style=\"font-size: large\">raging for the now hungry for it<\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><i><span style=\"font-size: large\">crows rattle the air no dust<\/span><\/i><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">And the most important thing for teaching Zen is how to facilitate the process of uncovering and supporting practitioners to passionately following the living vein of <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>dharma<\/a> inquiry.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">Pointing to the moon.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\"> Along these lines, I recently listened to a couple talks from the Rochester Zen Center site <\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">(<a href=\"http:\/\/rzcpodcasts.blogspot.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">click<\/a>)<\/span><span style=\"font-size: large\">. Scroll to the January 2011 Sesshin Day 6: Enkan and the Rhinoceros. A couple minutes in, Bodhin shares a wonderful story about a naturalist who taught at Harvard in the 1850\u2019s. The scholar would greet prospective graduate students by handing them a fish and then leaving them to study it for hours or days.<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">Pointing to the moon. <\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">Follow the link above and you\u2019ll find a Roshi Kapleau (one of the founding teachers of\u00a0 Zen in the West) talk from 1973. I\u2019d never heard the old guy before so it was a true treat. I can hear his way-seeking mind in the quality of his voice. Delightful.\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">On this point, Roshi Kapleau offers this story from the Fayen:<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">A monk asked Fayen, \u201cI do not ask about the moon; what is pointing?\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">Fayen replied, \u201cThe moon.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<div style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'><span style=\"font-size: large\">The monk continued, \u201cI asked about pointing, why did you speak of the moon?\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>The master replied, \u201cBecause you asked about pointing.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>So we\u2019re really living the dream after all.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/4330911338438640912-5568159427825309535?l=wildfoxzen.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We started the introductory class at Dhristi Yoga in White Bear on Thursday. 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