{"id":216,"date":"2010-01-27T20:18:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-27T20:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2010\/01\/menzan-and-dainin-on-zazenshin\/"},"modified":"2010-01-27T20:18:00","modified_gmt":"2010-01-27T20:18:00","slug":"menzan-and-dainin-on-zazenshin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2010\/01\/menzan-and-dainin-on-zazenshin.html","title":{"rendered":"Menzan and Dainin on Zazenshin"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_0uPSljNE9f4\/S2DwuYrZ3bI\/AAAAAAAAAxc\/U5LI6rEKwrg\/s1600-h\/SCAN.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"400\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_0uPSljNE9f4\/S2DwuYrZ3bI\/AAAAAAAAAxc\/U5LI6rEKwrg\/s400\/SCAN.jpg\" width=\"283\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>After the first talk in Anchorage last week, a practitioner approached me and said he\u2019d sat with Katagiri Roshi at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.southerndharma.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Southern Dharma<\/a> in about 1988 and that he had a picture that he\u2019d send me (and he did \u2013 above). It\u2019s a deep pleasure for me to run into people who knew Katagiri way back when. And btw, if anybody out there has some old pictures of the old boy that you\u2019d like to share, I\u2019d be delighted to archive them here.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: large\"><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>Here\u2019s a poem on <i>Zazenshin<\/i> by Menzan Zuiho that Katagiri Roshi translated<\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>. Menzan (1683-1769) was an influential Soto Zen monk and scholar during the reforms of the Edo period. Menzan\u2019s interest was in returning to the original spirit of Dogen. A commentary on each of the works of Dogen\u2019s <i>Shobogenzo<\/i> is attributed to him, although some scholars argue that one of his disciples is responsible for the work.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif;font-size: large'>Zazen <i>goes beyond holy and profane.  <\/i><br>Shin <i>is an instrument to cure sickness.<\/i> <br><i>Here it means to kill the sickness of Zen.  <br>This sickness is chronic and obstinate.  <br>The immediate manifestation\u00a0<\/i><\/span><br><i><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif;font-size: large'>of dropping off body and mind <br>removes sickness inside and outside. <br>This is vigorous and sound wisdom. <br>Right and wrong views are originally empty.  <br>The sickness of Dharma can be diligently\u00a0<\/span><\/i><br><i><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif;font-size: large'>cleansed and removed.  <br>A bird flies like a bird, a fish swims like a fish.  <br>Seeing and hearing are much clearer.  <br>Sound and form are as-it-isness.  <br>The intent of Buddha and the intent <br>of becoming Buddha are going beyond. <br>Three times and ten directions are hard to separate.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif;font-size: large'>And here is Roshi\u2019s brief commentary to the poem:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-size: large\"><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>The teaching of just sitting is uplifted by Dogen and all the Buddhas.  By <\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>plunging into the process of just sitting from moment to moment you can get <\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>out of this perpetual wandering. Once attached to the dualistic mind there is no way out. Just switch your attention back to this center, embracing the total picture of just sitting <\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>itself including thinking, not thinking and nonthinking without meddling.  Then <\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>you can directly perceive the nature of the world of perpetual wandering. This <\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>awareness is not a mental experience created by your consciousness.  Body and <\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>mind directly realize it.  Sometimes the realization is strong and sometimes it is <\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif'>more subtle and smooth.  Some day you can taste it. <\/span><\/span><span style='font-family: Georgia,\"Times New Roman\",serif;font-size: large'><\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/4330911338438640912-5157134505770255172?l=wildfoxzen.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After the first talk in Anchorage last week, a practitioner approached me and said he\u2019d sat with Katagiri Roshi at Southern Dharma in about 1988 and that he had a picture that he\u2019d send me (and he did \u2013 above). 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