{"id":306,"date":"2009-07-08T08:25:00","date_gmt":"2009-07-08T08:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2009\/07\/the-merging-of-enlightenment-and-salvation\/"},"modified":"2009-07-08T08:25:00","modified_gmt":"2009-07-08T08:25:00","slug":"the-merging-of-enlightenment-and-salvation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2009\/07\/the-merging-of-enlightenment-and-salvation.html","title":{"rendered":"The Merging of Enlightenment and Salvation"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0uPSljNE9f4\/SlSe00igGFI\/AAAAAAAAAhY\/zlLICugeWiU\/s1600-h\/K-roshi.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt;float: left;cursor: pointer;width: 233px;height: 320px\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0uPSljNE9f4\/SlSe00igGFI\/AAAAAAAAAhY\/zlLICugeWiU\/s320\/K-roshi.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:13\"><br><\/span>\n<p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Here\u2019s another section of the talk by Katagiri Roshi that I posted recently. It brings together several themes that we\u2019ve been working with here abouts \u2013 compassion as salvation, the significance of Soto forms, daily life practice, enlightenment, wholeheartedness, and the meaning of Genjo. He didn\u2019t leave much out!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Salvation is described by regulation of the monastery \u2013 how to wash your face, how to use the bathroom, how to cook up the kitchen, how you deal with toilet paper, and how you deal with your cloths, hair, etc.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Then it seems to everyone that Dogen\u2019s teaching could suffocated us death.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Form of gassho is do this like this, and not like this, not like this.  Always Dogen Zenji put you in some kind of form and then you don\u2019t like it because you like freedom.  However, the freedom you like is not freedom.  It is confusion.  In terms of Buddha\u2019s eyes your freedom is missed.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">That\u2019s why Buddha is always expresses compassion and puts you in a certain frame, so called Buddha land. Salvation is there.  Where is salvation?  Right now right here.  That\u2019s it.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><\/span><\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">How can you manifest salvation backed by wisdom?  Salvation and enlightenment work together. But usually we love wisdom so much, understanding the teaching very deeply. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Salvation we don\u2019t like. We love it emotionally, but we don\u2019 like it intellectually.  Because you don\u2019t feel freedom. We are always try to live our way.  Particularly when you get into spiritual life.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><\/span><\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Intellectually you want to have freedom but when you get into you don\u2019t like it. When you don\u2019t do it how can you create productive life in the process of action, so called jumping into ocean?  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Spiritual life is touching the revelation of freedom directly. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><\/span><\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">The point that I want to tell is merging of enlightenment and salvation.  Without everyday life religion is ridiculous. It is exactly the same as philosophy, psychology if you don\u2019t make it alive in every day life.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">When you do gassho there is spiritual life there.  Otherwise, how can you express gratitude for your life to everything?  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">We need a path. That\u2019s what I want to tell you in Buddha\u2019s teaching.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Two crucial points in Buddha\u2019s teaching. One is egolessness.  Egolessness is being liberated, being liberated from the self.  That is the meaning of Mu. It\u2019s not to destroy but to be liberated, be free from self or ego.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><\/span><\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Second crucial point is the quality of Buddha\u2019s experience. Buddha\u2019s teaching is wisdom and compassion. Wisdom and compassion or enlightenment and salvation should work together from moment to moment. That is called spiritual life. You understand it and you should live it, live in it.  This is our practice. <\/span><\/span>\n<div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">The problem is you have never experienced before.  That\u2019s why I always tell you when you do Zen, do Zen with wholeheartedness. It is salvation backed by whole universe.  You don\u2019t believe it because it\u2019s too simple.  Too simple to know.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Something you directly have to touch is too close, too close to know.  Very delicate.  <\/span><\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Do you understand?  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Too close means when your stomach is functioning smoothly and you don\u2019t pay attention to it. When your stomach is growling, something is making trouble.  At that time you pay attention to the existence of stomach.  That stomach you pay attention to is something different from you. But before you understand or know stomach, stomach and your whole body and everything is working exactly in the same and one ground.<\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">You are perfectly peaceful and harmonious \u2013 saved.  That is not something to know. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">All you can do is just to manifest. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><\/span><\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">That is called <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Genjo<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">  Gen<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> is manifestation or present.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Jo<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> is becoming, or to become, or complete. <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Genjo<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> means what has been completed and is completing and is being completed and will be completed.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><\/span><\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-style: italic\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">From day to day,  from moment to moment that is what? 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