{"id":368,"date":"2009-03-22T16:29:00","date_gmt":"2009-03-22T16:29:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2009\/03\/understanding-and-realizing\/"},"modified":"2009-03-22T16:29:00","modified_gmt":"2009-03-22T16:29:00","slug":"understanding-and-realizing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2009\/03\/understanding-and-realizing.html","title":{"rendered":"Understanding and Realizing"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_0uPSljNE9f4\/ScatwqzVVaI\/AAAAAAAAAU0\/ElaHdw48Uro\/s1600-h\/101_0536.JPG\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt;float: left;cursor: pointer;width: 320px;height: 240px\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_0uPSljNE9f4\/ScatwqzVVaI\/AAAAAAAAAU0\/ElaHdw48Uro\/s320\/101_0536.JPG\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Sesshin ended today. In dokusan the difference between understanding and realizing came up again. It\u2019s a difficult thing to learn (and \u201cteach\u201d) because most of us are only familiar with understanding and are impatient. Realization takes as long as it takes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s the difference?<\/p>\n<p>Take the koan I offered in the last post:<\/p>\n<p><span><em><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">\u2026When Kishizawa Ian, Suzuki Roshi\u2019s second teacher, was a young monk, he was sitting in meditation on a rainy day and heard the sound of a distant waterfall. Then the wooden han was struck. He went to his teacher (maybe Oka Sotan) and asked, \u201cWhat is the place where the sound of the rain, the waterfall, and the han meet?\u201d<br>His teacher replied, \u201cTrue eternity still flows.\u201d<br>And then he asked, \u201cWhat is this true eternity that still flows?\u201d<br>\u201cIt is like a bright mirror, permanently smooth,\u201d said his teacher.<br>\u201cIs there anything beyond this?\u201d asked the young monk.<br>\u201cYes,\u201d responded his teacher.<br>\u201cWhat is beyond this?\u201d inquired the young monk.<br>And his teacher replied, \u201cBreak the mirror. Come, and I\u2019ll meet you.\u201d<br><\/span><\/em><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><br>A lot could be said about the spunk and freshness of the young monk; the psychology of the ear organ, the ear consciousness, and the ear objects coming together (waterfull, rain, han); the references in the teacher\u2019s answers to the <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Jewel Mirror Samadhi<\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">; and how teacher and student meet. All that would be to understand the koan.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>To realize is to actualize eternity, the mirror, breaking, and meeting. Realizing is probably not like anything you\u2019ve known before. If you\u2019ve real-ized breaking of the mirror, for example, you can say what color it is just as easy as it is to identify your own face in the mirror. <\/p>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">If not, you might try to figure it out. Maybe figuring is necessary to discover that it can\u2019t be realized in that way. Understanding is also profoundly unsatisfying.\n<p>Instead, look at the example of <\/p><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/wildfoxzen.blogspot.com\/2009\/03\/sonins-bow-of-verification.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Sonin<\/span><\/a><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> from a few posts back. When her teacher asked her about temporal conditions, she didn\u2019t know, had the ego strength to acknowledge that she didn\u2019t know, and went away to throw herself into her practice. <\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><br><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Her practice became a sacred pause.\n<p>And although the blog world is good for many things, it isn\u2019t so good at communicating the importance of taking as long as it takes. <\/p><\/span><\/div>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><br><\/span>\n<div><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">To clarify: I\u2019m not encouraging practicing with a gaining idea but manifesting the burning Way Heart through wholehearted inquiry, free from all considerations. I\u2019m encouraging passion for our questions. No need holding back and playing humble.\n<p>Capping Verse from Dogen in <\/p><\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">King of Samadhi\u2019s Samadhi<\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">:<br>\u201cInvestigate one thousand points, ten thousand points, such as these.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/4330911338438640912-7661550673017292045?l=wildfoxzen.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sesshin ended today. In dokusan the difference between understanding and realizing came up again. It\u2019s a difficult thing to learn (and \u201cteach\u201d) because most of us are only familiar with understanding and are impatient. Realization takes as long as it takes. What\u2019s the difference? Take the koan I offered in the last post: \u2026When Kishizawa [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":182,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-368","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Understanding and Realizing<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Sesshin ended today. In dokusan the difference between understanding and realizing came up again. 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