{"id":396,"date":"2009-02-11T17:05:00","date_gmt":"2009-02-11T17:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2009\/02\/karma-is-clear\/"},"modified":"2009-02-11T17:05:00","modified_gmt":"2009-02-11T17:05:00","slug":"karma-is-clear","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2009\/02\/karma-is-clear.html","title":{"rendered":"Karma is Clear"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0uPSljNE9f4\/SZNaR5epRfI\/AAAAAAAAAR4\/ob6X6Gnb_rA\/s1600-h\/101_0449.JPG\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt;float: left;cursor: pointer;width: 240px;height: 320px\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_0uPSljNE9f4\/SZNaR5epRfI\/AAAAAAAAAR4\/ob6X6Gnb_rA\/s320\/101_0449.JPG\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">A mid-winter melt is winding down here today, although it melted enough snow to block Bodhi and my path earlier.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Speaking of which, a practitioner requested something from Dogen about karma and rebirth so I dipped into <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Dogens-Extensive-Record-Translation-Koroku\/dp\/0861713052\/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1234393855&amp;sr=8-1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Dogen\u2019s Extensive Record<\/span><\/a><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> to see what I could see. First, let me again profusely praise this very important work, essential for students of Soto Zen, in my view, and encourage you all to buy it right away.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Second, a couple general thoughts, then third I\u2019ll offer you a brief <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Dharma<\/a> Hall Discourse (#62) and finally a few words about that.<\/p>\n<p>In the <span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">Extensive Record<\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">, at least the first four volumes, Dogen discusses cause and effect four times (no mention there of rebirth but there is elsewhere so don\u2019t go ajumpin\u2019 to conclusions) and each time it is in context of the Wild Fox koan (<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wild_fox_koan\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">click here if you really want that beast to raise its head<\/span><\/a><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">). That points to the complexity and subtlety of the issue. I\u2019ve been chewing on this one for many years and can attest to how it continues to unfold.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Another point is that \u201ccause and effect\u201d really should often be translated \u201ckarma\u201d because karma is not just cause and effect but <span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">action + intention<\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">. You can have cause and effect, like flowers falling, without karma. Karma is high-powered cause and effect.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Maybe that\u2019s a niggly point but maybe not. If we are to understand what the Zen ancestors are talking about in careful detail (and our lives), then we ought to look at the teaching\u00a0(and our lives)\u00a0with careful detail, right? Otherwise we might just wantonly project our sloppy selves onto so-called \u201cit.\u201d That\u2019s the \u201chow we do one thing is how we do everything\u201d rule.<\/p>\n<p>And now, here\u2019s Dogen:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">After relating the story of Baizhang and the wild fox, [Dogen] said:  I had mistakenly thought that the barbarian\u2019s beard was red, but surprisingly there is a red bearded barbarian.   Not falling into [causality] or not ignoring [causality], cause and effect brings more cause and effect.  Do all of you want to know causes and understand effects or not?  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">[Dogen] raised his whisk and said:  Look, look.  Cause and effect are clear.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic\"><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\">[Dogen] put down his whisk and got down from his seat.  <\/span><\/span><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"font-size:medium\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Comments:<br>Sentence 1: The issue with the beard is simple. You have to get upside down to deeply appreciate karma.<br>Sentence 2: Karma rolls on whether you think you can be free from it or whether you think you ought to pay attention.<br>Sentence 3: If you want to realize the great mystery, look carefully at karma\/cause and effect.<br>Sentence 4 and 5: It ain\u2019t unfolding anywhere else. Open your mouth and it fills it.<br>Sentence 6: moveon.org<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/4330911338438640912-4182162861727940374?l=wildfoxzen.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A mid-winter melt is winding down here today, although it melted enough snow to block Bodhi and my path earlier. Speaking of which, a practitioner requested something from Dogen about karma and rebirth so I dipped into Dogen\u2019s Extensive Record to see what I could see. 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