{"id":454,"date":"2008-12-06T11:29:00","date_gmt":"2008-12-06T11:29:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2008\/12\/more-still-on-flowers-and-weeds\/"},"modified":"2008-12-06T11:29:00","modified_gmt":"2008-12-06T11:29:00","slug":"more-still-on-flowers-and-weeds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/wildfoxzen\/2008\/12\/more-still-on-flowers-and-weeds.html","title":{"rendered":"More Still on Flowers and Weeds"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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By the way, I\u2019ve been updating somethings over on the right sidebar, especially the offerings in 2009 right here in beautiful ex-urban White Bear and also my travels for the book. \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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We\u2019ve got just one more Dogen study session until March and most Thursday evenings from now until then we\u2019ll be having open zazen (that means anybody can stop by, just shoot me an email) and tea afterwards.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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Okay \u2026 now some more on <\/span>Genjokoan<\/span><\/span>\u00a0from the session this past Thursday.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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No matter what you say about it, flowers fall\u00a0when lamented and weeds\u00a0flourish when disliked.<\/span><\/span><\/span>
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This is my brother\u2019s translation of the fourth line. There are a couple points that stand out in this rendition.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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Second point first. Don\u2019t colonize your emotional life with bullshit about how you think Zen students should feel.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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Take this morning for example. I stayed in bed until Bodhi just <\/span>had<\/span><\/span> to go outside to pee, then had breakfast with my son, walked in the woods with Bodhi (photo is of the enso tree with fresh snow), and watched some videos on YouTube with my daughter. Then I got to sitting about 10:30am. I mentioned to both kids that I\u2019d be sitting so \u201ckeep it down.\u201d Note the lack of specificity in the request. With teens I\u2019ve found \u201ckeep it down\u201d must be carefully operationalized for anything approximating cooperation. Something like \u201cKeep the volume at or below 3 bars.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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Now I\u2019ve sat in all kinds of situations and I notice that I sometimes say to beginners, \u201cNoise doesn\u2019t both me.\u201d However, as I started sitting the volume from upstairs started to creep up. My daughter was listening to Immortal Technique hip hop and my son to Green Day punk heavy metal. Grrrr.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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So like Dogen might have\u00a0said, \u201c\u2026a\u00a0cacophony of loud quasi-music when pissed\u2026.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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That\u2019s it. That\u2019s the teaching of this line and the first point: no matter what you say (to yourself or others) about it, a cacophony of loud music when pissed.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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Snow makes enso tree.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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No need to go into psycho-emotional babel trying to manipulate feeling. Caution: the teaching isn\u2019t to act out these feelings, of course, we\u2019ve got the precepts for that.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n

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The practice is to live life to the full without limits on our emotional life.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n
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